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almost may and we still do not have very good options of mATX or ITX, more phases, x370...
Motherboards wi-fi for example...
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Originally Posted by gordesky1 View Post

Well what i mean it didint boot up but it just kept turning on and off very fast and also the lights kept binking with the revs.




Edit also it seems like the vcore is droping down even tho the mhzs stays the same? I got cool n quite off. in cpuz and hwin the lowest the vcore went was .0440 Like i said im very new to ryzen and also this bios.. lol Im so used to my asus sabber kitty lol...


Also the switch's seems to be in the right places for the bios main bios is on the right and sb is also on the right... Could've sworn it was on the left but i didn't get much sleep soo... lol


Not even sure maybe its my psu causing the reving of the fans and lights... Than again it powered my fx rig with out any problems and that uses more power hmm...

The am4 gigabyte's dual bios can allegedly do nasty things when it thinks there's a boot failure if you don't take precautions.

-Edit Dual bios with less potential for funny stuff is an attractive feature for overclocking . The funny stuff is, I'm sure, getting harder to do accidently.
Edited by yendor - 4/27/17 at 5:00pm
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Originally Posted by Lucky Strike View Post

almost may and we still do not have very good options of mATX or ITX, more phases, x370...
Motherboards wi-fi for example...

I don't fault vendors for not committing resources at launch to a still niche form factor. Very popular yes, getting the most out of it without getting really cheesy with a new arch/chipset and unknown level of demand? They're in business to make money. mATX and ITX have never, to the best of my recollection admittedly imperfect, been first out the gate with new architecture for anyone. I'm hoping for better from the second round of offerings in all form factors. Kinda glad no itx with cheapskate / cautious approach was available at launch.
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Originally Posted by yendor View Post

Each motherboard can be different when it comes to how lanes are handled. Not many have two nvme slots.
In the bios your other sata drives may not be enabled, though present and connected.

Which motherboard do you have?

If your case is new the manufacturer may be persuaded to ship you a new power switch or simply rma the entire thing. What case do you have?

Welcome to Ryzen and OCN by the way. If you haven't been nudged yet, try creating a signature rig for your build. It'll save questions , well in theory, about what motherboard, cpu, ram etc that will come up.



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Thanks for the reply

I have an X370 ASRock Taichi board and a Fractal Design R5 Define case.

The front IO cables on that case are very flimsy.

It does seem that the Taichi only supports SATA M.2 drives in the first slot and only PCIe drives in either slot. So either swap them over and sacrifice speed or try and get the Crucial exchanged for another 906 EVO.

I will create a signature rig as recommended.

Cheers
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The am4 gigabyte's dual bios can allegedly do nasty things when it thinks there's a boot failure if you don't take precautions.

-Edit Dual bios with less potential for funny stuff is an attractive feature for overclocking . The funny stuff is, I'm sure, getting harder to do accidently.


Were should i have the switchs at? should i leave them all on the right?

The thing is even at stock it still does that reving crap and no boot till couple power downs than it says the bios has reset cause there was issues...


Now when its booted up in windows everything runs solid even at the clocks i have it at the moment 3.6ghz 2933 memory. But if i shut it down sometimes it will shut down but than lights blink for a split sec and i will have to turn the psu switch off and on to get power.. than that's when the reving and light blinks non stop still i shut the switch off again... and sometimes will keep doing it for 4 switch resets and it goes in bios and says something was wrong:(


This is the same psu i had in my fx build 4.8ghz no issues at all. I also check the rails with my volt tester and they read 12.09 idle and 12.06 at load, and 5v is always over 5..


My cousin said it seems like its staving on power when it does that issue. but i cant see that being the issue... Too me it seems like maybe the bios is switching back and forth if that makes sense... The led display will show 00 when its doing that.


But yea its been running great all day so far but i haven't tried restarting it or shutting it down yet..



Also is the vrm mos the vrms? it says the max it went up to in hwin is 76 is that safe?
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Originally Posted by gordesky1 View Post

Were should i have the switchs at? should i leave them all on the right?

The thing is even at stock it still does that reving crap and no boot till couple power downs than it says the bios has reset cause there was issues...


Now when its booted up in windows everything runs solid even at the clocks i have it at the moment 3.6ghz 2933 memory. But if i shut it down sometimes it will shut down but than lights blink for a split sec and i will have to turn the psu switch off and on to get power.. than that's when the reving and light blinks non stop still i shut the switch off again... and sometimes will keep doing it for 4 switch resets and it goes in bios and says something was wrong:(


This is the same psu i had in my fx build 4.8ghz no issues at all. I also check the rails with my volt tester and they read 12.09 idle and 12.06 at load, and 5v is always over 5..


My cousin said it seems like its staving on power when it does that issue. but i cant see that being the issue... Too me it seems like maybe the bios is switching back and forth if that makes sense... The led display will show 00 when its doing that.


But yea its been running great all day so far but i haven't tried restarting it or shutting it down yet..



Also is the vrm mos the vrms? it says the max it went up to in hwin is 76 is that safe?

Manual should say how to set bios so it only uses one of them.

Behaviour you describe is ryzen trying to train ram to match settings for speed, timings, voltage that were set in bios by xmp or manual entry.
Don't interrupt it. It won't help if you power on/off or use reset switch . Is normal so far.
When it gets to bios your cpu oc may be back to stock speed and ram timings speed. settings for these however may stll be for unhappy ryzen reboot cycle so change ram to last known working settings and reboot. With luck those aren't too hard for it to handle and you can proceed with different steps to reach desired goal for oc cpu and ram.

Good luck.
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Manual should say how to set bios so it only uses one of them.

Behaviour you describe is ryzen trying to train ram to match settings for speed, timings, voltage that were set in bios by xmp or manual entry.
Don't interrupt it. It won't help if you power on/off or use reset switch . Is normal so far.
When it gets to bios your cpu oc may be back to stock speed and ram timings speed. settings for these however may stll be for unhappy ryzen reboot cycle so change ram to last known working settings and reboot. With luck those aren't too hard for it to handle and you can proceed with different steps to reach desired goal for oc cpu and ram.

Good luck.

So the repeated boot loops is cause of the ram? The thing is even at stock settings and with the ram at 2133 it will still do those boot loops sometimes...

I even took the ram out and one time it was still doing the boot loop cause i wanted to see if it gave me a ram beep from them not being installed. But nope just repeated reboots like 0.5 secs.

The weird thing too mouse and keyboard doeisnt work other than the 2 ports by the ps2 port on the first bios. But on the 2nd bios with the switch towards the left mouse and keyboard works....


I also notice the front usbs is not providing enough power to devices. Like if i have 2 phones plug in to charge which i normal did with my asus saber kitty am3 they will keep disconnecting and connecting...

They are not high powered phones either.
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What's the maximum bclk where it starts messing up with nvme drive?


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What's the maximum bclk where it starts messing up with nvme drive?


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I think its roughly around 107MHz
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Just thought I'd throw in some RAM info -

I spent HOURS researching Samsung B-die then said the heck with it and got the Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200 that some people poo-poo. Though it wasn't on my QVL at 3200 8gb (was listed as 2666 at 4gb) I took the chance and bought it. Sure enough (and according to newegg reviews) it booted up no problem at 2933 on my Asrock X370 Sli.

Though it doesn't do 3200 (yet) - I've no problem waiting a month or two for a bios update to max out the last 260ish mhz to 3200. It sure beats the heck out of spending 250+ dollars for Samsung B-die ram which will become irrelevant once AMD / Motherboard vendors put out a final update.

Here's the ram - super reasonable at the moment in terms of price (in Canada): https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0143UM4TC/ref=pe_1086170_134824320_cm_rv_eml_rv0_dp



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