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Yes well, sadly that extra money you spent on a price inflated set of Samsung b-die sticks was just early adopter fee. You are high if you think that the AM4 platform will sit stagnant while memory kits run at their advertised speeds only on Intel platforms. It will be updated, it's just a question of when.

Yes, it will improve, but not everyone will be going up to 3200mhz. Not on the IMC of Ryzen and not on these chip sets. I expect when Zen + comes out the issues will be resolved but not fully in this edition of Ryzen.I have my own issue because I want to run 4 sticks of 8GB dimms and on the latest 1.5 bios for the MSI Titanium I am limited to 2667mhz . That was a bump up from the previous 2400mhz.Some time this month when the final bios memory improvements come I expect to be running 4 dimms at 2933mhz.I do NOT expect 3200mhz. Of course I hope AMD will pleasantly surprise all of us.
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No, the biggest reason by far for ddr4 price spiking is that many cell phones are using ddr4 memory.
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Hi. I'm quite confused with all the ddr/overclocking mess happening right now and would need some advice.

I have a 1600 on the way and am looking for a motherboard satisfying following conditions:

-Overclock the 1600 to 3.9-4 Ghz
-Supports ram to 2666 in the future.

My build would be

1600
Rx 580 8gb
2*8 gigs ddr4

I was set on the B350 Tomahawk, but it got up in price and got some competition.

So now my options are:

ASUS Prime B350-PLUS (Cheapest 140$ CAD)
MSI B350 TOMAHAWK (155$ CAD)
MSI X370 SLI Plus (190$ CAD)
ASRock X370 Killer SLI (185$ CAD)
ASRock FATAL1TY X370 Gaming K4 (200 CAD)

Would the X370 premium be worth anything in my case? I heard good things on the ASUS Prime, is Tomahawk still superior.

Also should I buy a 3200 ram kit or just set on the 2666?

Thank you

If you're planning on those speeds, what cooler are you going to use? I also wouldn't count on any future compatibility. Although it's likely most ram will be, its not a promise. A lot of things need to go into board considerations. And if you want those speeds, look at VRM cooling designs. I would go with the 370 chipset. The prime is ok I suppose. I didn't care for the VRM design on mine but I'm also jaded because I think I got a fluke bad board.
In comparison to what I have now (Biostar X370 GT7) I am very pleased. Its 6+2 phase which isn't on all of the X370s. I feel its a grossly under appreciated board and could use some love. And not because I have one but rather, I have no complaints. Ok,......well there is one complaint. The BIOS seems translated but other than that, its nice.
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/8137/biostar-x370gt7-motherboard-review/index.html
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I was decided to go with MSI Mortar b350m, but i saw the foruns of MSI and the fact that this board does not have recover for the bios, scarys me a lot.

SO, I´m going with gigabyte gaming 3 and 32gb ripjaws 3200....
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Problems with RAM compatibility better improve fast or this platform is going to sink. AMD used to play nice with memory before, I had ram working well above above IMC on Phenom and FX processors. Phenom II at above 1600 and even 1866 and FX 6350 at ~2300.
Now on R5 1600x, Asus PRIME X370 PRO (latest bios 0604) , Kingston HyperX KHX3000C15D4/8GX with XMP2.0 setting of 1333MHz locks right up and will not go over 2400MHz. It runs on Skyleke at 2996 with no problems.
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Problems with RAM compatibility better improve fast or this platform is going to sink. AMD used to play nice with memory before, I had ram working well above above IMC on Phenom and FX processors. Phenom II at above 1600 and even 1866 and FX 6350 at ~2300.
Now on R5 1600x, Asus PRIME X370 PRO (latest bios 0604) , Kingston HyperX KHX3000C15D4/8GX with XMP2.0 setting of 1333MHz locks right up and will not go over 2400MHz. It runs on Skyleke at 2996 with no problems.

Problems? what problems? Im at 3200 with ease, lots of people are at 3600mhz with ease. If your ram can't do its advertised speed stop using xmp, its an Intel thing to begin with the amd equivalent is a-xmp. Set everything manually and change ram voltage/soc and see what happens. AM4 does not seem to like 3000mhz so youll probably run it at 2933 which is pretty close, if not just do it with bclk overclocking.
    
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There's no external clock on this MB and it could be set manually only in set increments when XMP is not set. There are only some RAMs that can hit those rated speeds, notably ones with Samsung "b" die but they are either expensive or/and not readily available.
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There's no external clock on this MB and it could be set manually only in set increments when XMP is not set. There are only some RAMs that can hit those rated speeds, notably ones with Samsung "b" die but they are either expensive or/and not readily available.

Corsair hynix lpx works fine as well im on 3200mhz. Some with the same ram cant get it to work some can. A bios update fixed it for me.
    
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Corsair hynix lpx works fine as well im on 3200mhz. Some with the same ram cant get it to work some can. A bios update fixed it for me.
As Isaid before, can't find 100% compatible RAM everywhere. Ryzen itself doesn't care about brand or anything RAM itself but MB manufacturers make MBs and BIOS with XMP settings so any RAM with it should be able to use it. If it doesn't it's their fault. Ever since DDR1 which did have some problems with compatibility with single and double sided chips was there so many problems with compatibility. DDR2 was much better that way and with DDR3 you could practically mix and match almost anything and would work. Now have to have a cow to find compatible combination while unsuccessful combinations hurt CPU potential performance. So, if CPU and RAM can be set to desired settings and even go over with OC, guess who's left to blame. Clearly, the ball is in MB manufacturer's court.
IT almost sounds like some "anti AMD conspiracy". Skylake had dozens of compatible MBs from word go and for AMD barely few ones and those are mostly with problems.
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