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I am no audioholic, but my current Realtek® ALC887 on my old P8Z77-M is very bad together with my Sennheiser HD558.

I do not want to buy a dedicated soundcard if the new ones are good, I have heard a lot of people talk about how much onboard has improved, but I cant find any reviews of the onboard part of new motherboards.

So if I get a semi highend motherboard with "isolated" a Realtek ALC1220, should I see decent improvement over my current setup (Mostly annoyed by the lag of punch in the current)
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I tried ALC1150 on my motherboard and was very good, no noise and a clear sound.
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I do not want to buy a dedicated soundcard if the new ones are good, I have heard a lot of people talk about how much onboard has improved, but I cant find any reviews of the onboard part of new motherboards.

What realtek codec the motherboard uses has next to nothing to do with the amount of punch it delivers. That's mostly down to the onboard amplifier.

They're still not that great on most motherboards. I'd personally get an external AMP/DAC. You can use these on other devices too so you'll have good audio no matter where you go. wink.gif

Something like a schiit fulla 2 would suffice.
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Originally Posted by Mech0z View Post

I am no audioholic, but my current Realtek® ALC887 on my old P8Z77-M is very bad together with my Sennheiser HD558.

I do not want to buy a dedicated sound card if the new ones are good, I have heard a lot of people talk about how much on-board has improved, but I cant find any reviews of the on-board part of new motherboards.

So if I get a semi highend motherboard with "isolated" a Realtek ALC1220, should I see decent improvement over my current setup (Mostly annoyed by the lag of punch in the current)

A Creative Labs Sound Blaster Z sound card should be better (or at least equal) any on-board audio, for motherboards that sells for under $250.

A $25 Asus Xonar DG should be at least a little better, then your current motherboard's on-board audio.
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A Creative Labs Sound Blaster Z sound card should be better (or at least equal) any on-board audio, for motherboards that sells for under $250.

A $25 Asus Xonar DG should be at least a little better, then your current motherboard's on-board audio.

Some boards come with SoundBlaster on them nowadays (the Core3D is the basis for the SBZ). The SBZ is going to smash just about anything anyways due to the decent Signal to Noise Ratio. Integrated headphone amp is ridiculously powerful for what it is. I want to say that goes up to at least 96 Ohm impedance.

As @Gilles3000 said, it comes down to the amplification on the motherboard, not the ALC1220 chip itself. I would imagine it isn't too bad of a codec, I would have to look at the white papers. In fact, RealTek only has up to the 1150 codec available on the website at the moment.
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I can't even find the ALC1220 listed on the realtek site to compare its features. Its hard to know what it brings to the discussion if the manufacturer doesn't even list its basic features. I can find it on one Asus AM4 motherboard and then Gigabyte seems to have a load of them. All Gigabyte seems to be saying is 120 Dba SNR and an amplifier for high impedence headphones. Nothing said about improving the 3D surround implementation or anything like that. Its very much a "don't care about sound" kind of chip by the looks of things. Might be better SNR than the previous ones but doesn't look like anything excitingly different to make it different from the earlier versions.
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I can't even find the ALC1220 listed on the realtek site to compare its features. Its hard to know what it brings to the discussion if the manufacturer doesn't even list its basic features. I can find it on one Asus AM4 motherboard and then Gigabyte seems to have a load of them. All Gigabyte seems to be saying is 120 Dba SNR and an amplifier for high impedence headphones. Nothing said about improving the 3D surround implementation or anything like that. Its very much a "don't care about sound" kind of chip by the looks of things. Might be better SNR than the previous ones but doesn't look like anything excitingly different to make it different from the earlier versions.

I think the SNR is improved by about 5-10dB over the 1150, as that is supposed to be 115/110dB. Based upon that, it will be quite comparable in that department, and circuit isolation and filtering (which is up to the mobo manufacturer to take care of) will set the actual bar. It would be cool to actually find out what the key differences are, but there is no writeup available.
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I don't know the specifics on how each board is setup, but I just switched to a Asus Z270 Hero(alc1220) from my Msi z97 G45(alc1150)

Using my Ath-m50x's I can hear a very slight difference in sound, there's definitely less noise. I've got a ModMic 4.0 attached, which seems to be notorious for being super quiet and having loud background noise if not supplied enough power. I ordered a cheap $5 usb sound card to plug the microphone into, which was better than my motherboard.

Microphone quality is greatly improved with the new board. Is it due to better amplication or the new codec? Idk, but everything sounds better. (Especially my mic)
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I don't know the specifics on how each board is setup, but I just switched to a Asus Z270 Hero(alc1220) from my Msi z97 G45(alc1150)

Using my Ath-m50x's I can hear a very slight difference in sound, there's definitely less noise. I've got a ModMic 4.0 attached, which seems to be notorious for being super quiet and having loud background noise if not supplied enough power. I ordered a cheap $5 usb sound card to plug the microphone into, which was better than my motherboard.

Microphone quality is greatly improved with the new board. Is it due to better amplication or the new codec? Idk, but everything sounds better. (Especially my mic)
you mean your $5 USB soundcard is better than the Asus Z270 onboard audio?
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