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Been gaming on my Asus g73 last 6 years, had a pc my friend built before that. I currently have everything for my new build except for mobo and cpu (waiting for ryzen to drop). Im looking forward to learning and honing a new skill. Any tips or advised recources are appreciated, I know nothing right now but am willing to learn. Thanks.
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For your first new build, have someone near by that knows what he is doing. It is very easy to overlook something and two eyes are better then one.
 
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Take it slow and follow the instructions you'll be fine. The most common mistake even veteran builders make is getting too excited to get things turned on and missing something important. I always build up enough out side the case to make sure i can get to the bios before putting anything inside the case. It only takes a few minutes to set up and can let you know what works early in the process. The big advantage to doing this is making sure you have the CPU mounted and cooled properly while you are still in a position to easily fix it.

There are some good "breadbording" posts around but to me that's a bit of overkill.

My Process: (this assumes your Mobo has a startup button)

Ground before touching any PC parts.
Use the MB box as a test bench
Install CPU, cooler, RAM, Power supply to MoBo (24 and 8 (or 4) pin)
Connect Keyboard and mouse
Connect Montior to MoBo Graphics
Boot to CMOS and check CPU temp.

I'll usually monitor the CPU temp for 5 to 10 minutes just to make sure thermals are good

Shut Down

Install graphics card and reconnect monitor to graphics card.

Startup again

If you can get into bios just fine and temps still look good then you can be fairly certain everything is working good enough to put everything in the case. At this point you can shut down, connect OS drive and load OS before putting everything in but I usually just start jamming parts into the case at this point.

Here is my last prebuild. It isn't pretty but it's effective

 
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I too like to build outside of the case before putting everything in. I used to have a makeshift test bench to secure the board to, but finally just started using a box to hold it in.

1. Make sure your standoffs are in the right place and that you don't have any metal pieces floating around the bottom of the motherboard tray.
2. Decide how you are going to route your cables and avoid a lot of over hang.
3. Make sure your airflow isn't keeping your heat in.
4. Don't add power cables to parts while the PSU is running.
5. Read instructions on proper memory placement.
6. Don't over-apply thermal paste. I use the pea sized drop in the center personally to get a good thin layer.

Remember have fun with this. New builds are an exciting time for all involved. Take a ton of pics and do a build log if you're so inclinced.
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Thanks for the replies everyone. I like the idea of testing the major components before actually installing them. A lot of people dont worry about esd, I on the otherhand feel its better safe than sorry. Especially with the amount of money I have in this build so far. I got an esd wristband and esd assembly matt on the way to be safe. I have been waiting for am4 for a few weeks so I have had a lot of time to research and watch youtube videos on the subject. I have never overclocked anything, and am not even goig to think about it untill my new build is fully assembled/updated/operating correctly.
 
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I have put the parts I currently have into my rig section. I know the ram (4266) will have to be downclocked but I got a really good deal on it. Im planning on getting the Asus Crosshair mobo and 1700x or 1800x chip. Does this seam like a stable/reasonable build? Iv already purchased the components in my rig section, but I would appreciate anyones opinion on this build. I tried to research everything I bought and go with products with good reviews etc. How am I doing?
 
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I have put the parts I currently have into my rig section. I know the ram (4266) will have to be downclocked but I got a really good deal on it. Im planning on getting the Asus Crosshair mobo and 1700x or 1800x chip. Does this seam like a stable/reasonable build? Iv already purchased the components in my rig section, but I would appreciate anyones opinion on this build. I tried to research everything I bought and go with products with good reviews etc. How am I doing?
I don't see any rigs showing for you, all I see are pictures of parts in an album. Check and make sure the rig stats are public. You can also add them to your signature so that all can get to them easily from your posts.
 
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I don't see any rigs showing for you, all I see are pictures of parts in an album. Check and make sure the rig stats are public. You can also add them to your signature so that all can get to them easily from your posts.
Ok think I got it figured out. I just watched https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v44wWAOHn8 And am more excited than ever for this build. Hopefully she will be running in 2 or 3 weeks. I dont have any of my parts linked yet, gonna work on that today. I tried yesterday and none of them worked...
 
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Ok think I got it figured out. I just watched https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v44wWAOHn8 And am more excited than ever for this build. Hopefully she will be running in 2 or 3 weeks. I dont have any of my parts linked yet, gonna work on that today. I tried yesterday and none of them worked...
It seems like it's going to be a nice build.

One thing that we don't know for sure with Ryzen is the compatibility with memory. I've never any issues with G.Skill compatibility on any of my machines, but there's a reason for compatibility lists. If you have to downclock, but can get good timings the memory looks good.

Only thing I would add would be a large slow storage medium for recorded and rendered videos if you decide to start recording content as well as documents and other files that don't need the SSD. The 960GB SSD will fill up quickly if you're a gamer from just games alone, much less movies, pictures, and music.

Link a build log if you decide to do one. It looks like a fun build!
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Congrats!
 
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http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-cpus-support-ddr4-memory-speeds-3600mhz/ Dont know if I can link to other sites, If its a problem I will gladly take it down. Im looking at the Asus Crosshair and Msi Titanium boards. I read somewhere that the Crosshair supports 3200MHz, and can OC up into the 3866MHz range. looks like the Msi may go into the 4000MHz range. I am not a fan of the Msi titanium boards, the color scheme looks "muddy" to me. I however really like the monochromatic scheme of the Asus board. Will I ever notice the difference in that ram speed? Probably not. And I have an email sent into Gskill tech support to see what they say, or are willing to tell me if anything about compatability with any of these boards.
 
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http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-cpus-support-ddr4-memory-speeds-3600mhz/ Dont know if I can link to other sites, If its a problem I will gladly take it down. Im looking at the Asus Crosshair and Msi Titanium boards. I read somewhere that the Crosshair supports 3200MHz, and can OC up into the 3866MHz range. looks like the Msi may go into the 4000MHz range. I am not a fan of the Msi titanium boards, the color scheme looks "muddy" to me. I however really like the monochromatic scheme of the Asus board. Will I ever notice the difference in that ram speed? Probably not. And I have an email sent into Gskill tech support to see what they say, or are willing to tell me if anything about compatability with any of these boards.
Yeah, it's more of a wait and see since the NDAs haven't dropped yet on the Ryzen products.

Linking to other sites is fine, wccftech isn't overly reliable, but it seems like most of their information has been close on the Ryzen launch. There are several threads with information on the Ryzen boards, but I don't know how specific they get on the details.
 
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Looks like a good board. I've always enjoyed my ASUS boards I had because their BIOS software as well as supporting software is all well done. Recently did a build with an MSI z170 Pro Carbon and am not above one of those for my future builds because they are a good looking board as well.

What are you looking to for a cooler?
 
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I would love to do a custom loop, But I am still learning and figure I better get her up and running before trying anything extreme. My Asus G73 laptop has been fantastic! It is a little dated as of now, and running on Intel I7 1st gen. But it still runs and I have been very happy with it. It has been very reliable. I had to change the ac port (major PIA) but it was because my wife tripped on the cord. Its my only real experience with asus, but it has been a good experience. Sounds like you cant go wrong with MSI either. Biostar may not have the best reputation, But my first pc was built on a biostar board and it served me well for many many years also. I do like the look of the new biostar boards, but am not sure how reliable this brand is anymore?
 
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I would love to do a custom loop, But I am still earning and figure I better get her up and running before trying anything extreme. My Asus G73 laptop has been fantastic! It is a little dated as of now, and running on Intel I7 1st gen. But it still runs and I have been very happy with it. It has been very reliable. I had to change the ac port (major PIA) but it was because my wife tripped on the cord. Its my only real experience with asus, but it has been a good experience. Sounds like you cant go wrong with MSI either. Biostar may not have the best reputation, But my first pc was built on a biostar board and it served me well for many many years also. I do like the look of the new biostar boards, but am not sure how reliable this brand is anymore?
I've done a few Biostar builds, but they are definitely not enthusiast level boards.

I was just curious on the cooling as you hadn't mentioned it in your posts or on the rigbuilder. I have an h100i and have only had one issue with it during the entire time I've owned it: I accidentally pulled the PWM wires out of the pump. I was able to reseat them, but it was a troublesome fix. (I would also like to point out that I should not have been pulling on the cable anyways).

EDIT: I haven't used one in a few years, so I don't actually know what the Biostar enthusiast offerings are.
 
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I've done a few Biostar builds, but they are definitely not enthusiast level boards.

I was just curious on the cooling as you hadn't mentioned it in your posts or on the rigbuilder. I have an h100i and have only had one issue with it during the entire time I've owned it: I accidentally pulled the PWM wires out of the pump. I was able to reseat them, but it was a troublesome fix. (I would also like to point out that I should not have been pulling on the cable anyways).

EDIT: I haven't used one in a few years, so I don't actually know what the Biostar enthusiast offerings are.
Ya, I dont know whats going to be available for the am4 so Im holding off at the moment. But the 780t case can hold a pretty large rad. I admit it, Im a Corsair fanboy! Amd or Intel, Eh price vs performance Imo.
But I sure like my corsair crap haha. I know Noctua has some good offerings for the amd chip, But I really wanna do liquid cooling on this build. Whats temps are you getting with your H100?
 
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Ya, I dont know whats going to be available for the am4 so Im holding off at the moment. But the 780t case can hold a pretty large rad. I admit it, Im a Corsair fanboy! Amd or Intel, Eh price vs performance Imo.
But I sure like my corsair crap haha. I know Noctua has some good offerings for the amd chip, But I really wanna do liquid cooling on this build. Whats temps are you getting with your H100?
Haven't had my desktop set up in over a month, but I was in the upper 40s under load if the apartment was cool.
 
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Thats really good Terrere, I would be very happy with those results!
Yeah, my rig shows my overclock, but I've backed it off since I created it to lower voltages. Are you going to wait on some reviews of the Ryzen processors or are you going to pull the trigger on the pre-order when it's available?
 
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Yeah, my rig shows my overclock, but I've backed it off since I created it to lower voltages. Are you going to wait on some reviews of the Ryzen processors or are you going to pull the trigger on the pre-order when it's available?
Man, Im really torn right now. Iv been watching every leak, and article etc.. and everything is looking good. And the fact remains in my case, almost anything is going to leaps and bounds better than my current gaming laptop. The current plan is to wait and see what happens on launch day. Im pretty set on Ryzen, Honestly if I had any intention of running another Intel setup I would have went with Nvidia Gpus. Probably sounds silly, But I wanna Do an AMD build this time around and see how it works out for me. I am very tempted to preorder, But my major hang up with that is, what board is going to support what ram speed? I kind of have my mind made up on the board I want, but I still wanna wait and see what happens on launch week and see what some the reviewers are saying.
 
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To more Directly answer your question, I was planning on buying my mobo and cpu at the same time. So my hang up on what mobo to go with is keeping me from going ahead and preordering the cpu.
Despite my will to be a strong reviewer, I don't generally take risks with my pocketbook. Just like with the 990FX series, any producer could have a board that is better or worse for overclocking/use. For instance, the first AM3/+ boards from MSI weren't bad, but then they had some that the VRMs were all melting. I'm waiting on my new build until the duds of the motherboard world are found.
 
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Despite my will to be a strong reviewer, I don't generally take risks with my pocketbook. Just like with the 990FX series, any producer could have a board that is better or worse for overclocking/use. For instance, the first AM3/+ boards from MSI weren't bad, but then they had some that the VRMs were all melting. I'm waiting on my new build until the duds of the motherboard world are found.
That is the smart thing to do, and is what I should do. Im itching to get this thing built, But I know I should wait and see what problems are present with the new hardware. I also considered purchasing Neweggs accident coverage plan, I would assume if anything happened like VRMs melting, It should not be a problem to get a replacement. You bring up good points, I wanna pull the trigger, But i also wanna wait and see some reviews.
 
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