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G403 Angled sensor vs G pro

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#1 ·
Anyone have problems with the angled sensor? I cant make a straight line. I don't know if is my hand size and my grip ( Hybrid Claw/Palm and 17cm hand.) or it's the angled sensor.

Also, the G pro have the same sensor angle?

Thanks.
 
#2 ·
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Originally Posted by noibat2 View Post

Anyone have problems with the angled sensor? I cant make a straight line. I don't know if is my hand size and my grip ( Hybrid Claw/Palm and 17cm hand.) or it's the angled sensor.

Also, the G pro have the same sensor angle?

Thanks.
The G403 I know has a weird sensor angle, but as far as I know, my G Pro is completely straight.

If this is some kind of manufacturing error, I'd love a replacement.
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#4 ·
What do you mean by "cant make a straight line"?
If you mean the line you draw is curved, that's because these mice don't have angle snapping.
If you mean the line is running diagonal, like "from top left to bottom right" or "from bottom left to top right", that's because of your grip.
 
#5 ·
Logitech China even has an official tip on why G403 users can't draw a horizontal line.



I believe G403 is not the only mouse that would have this problem. If one is using IE3.0, he's likely to have the same experience.

It's just that G403 is so hyped. People have really high expectation of it.
So many people put interests and attention into it. So many bought it even if they never handled a gaming mouse before.

People notice some issues on G403 and yelling around every forum, saying they are cheated by Logitech.
It's just because they never really paid attention to a mouse like they did to G403. It's not G403 having the issues.
 
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Thank you for all that info!
My grip is exaclty what picture shows : 1-3-1. My previous mouse was a 4 years old D.A where I tried to apply the same grip on G403.

Now , I'll start my training with a new grip style
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Originally Posted by fourthavenue View Post

Logitech China even has an official tip on why G403 users can't draw a horizontal line.



I believe G403 is not the only mouse that would have this problem. If one is using IE3.0, he's likely to have the same experience.

It's just that G403 is so hyped. People have really high expectation of it.
So many people put interests and attention into it. So many bought it even if they never handled a gaming mouse before.

People notice some issues on G403 and yelling around every forum, saying they are cheated by Logitech.
It's just because they never really paid attention to a mouse like they did to G403. It's not G403 having the issues.
 
#9 ·
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Originally Posted by noibat2 View Post

Thank you for all that info!
My grip is exaclty what picture shows : 1-3-1. My previous mouse was a 4 years old D.A where I tried to apply the same grip on G403.

Now , I'll start my training with a new grip style
My grip is "angled" too. But I'm ok with G403 because I have been gripping like this for years and I'm use to such situations. My wrist movement will compensate my angled grip.
It is actually automatically done by the brain, not because I spent time adapting to it. Everyone can adapt to it in a hour of gaming session.
Like I said, it's just that most people never tried to draw a horizontal line before they receive a G403.
 
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Originally Posted by CorruptBE View Post

I did that years ago with the MX518. No big deal, I adjusted to it over time.
Yes my grip is angled with almost every mouse, even with ambidextrous mice. But it doesn't hinder my gameplay. Because human can easily adjust to it.
 
#12 ·
As others said here it's your grip.

I've linked to the Deathadder post a few times. It's a "problem" with that style of ergo mice personally speaking.
 
#13 ·
I wonder if at any point in the Logitech design process they tried to analyze the moment of inertia tensor to see if the sensor is aligned with the shape's principle axes. If not, the sensor can technically be misaligned to how the shape tends to move.
 
#16 ·
If I hold the G403 in the most comfortable way the sensor will be slightly misaligned in my hand. If I hold it with the senor aligned I start to want to use another mouse. I sent the mouse back because the shape wasn't good for me -- I was always fighting to get comfortable while maintaining control.

The Pro was fine as it's a symmetrical shape. Main reason I continue to use symmetrical mice.
 
#17 ·
Welcome to having a fingertip grip. Either get a mouse that accommodates it (G502, Naos...), or get used to having to compensate for the angle.
 
#22 ·
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Originally Posted by popups View Post

If I hold the G403 in the most comfortable way the sensor will be slightly misaligned in my hand. If I hold it with the senor aligned I start to want to use another mouse. I sent the mouse back because the shape wasn't good for me -- I was always fighting to get comfortable while maintaining control.

The Pro was fine as it's a symmetrical shape. Main reason I continue to use symmetrical mice.
I think the problem op is having is exactly this. I have the same problem with most Ergo mice.
I hold the Zowie EC and the SteelSeries Rival at an angle because they are more comfortable in my hand that way.
I've thought that the perfect ergo mouse (for me) would have its buttons angled to the left with some other visual indicator to show where the tip of the front is.
 
#25 ·
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Originally Posted by Avalar View Post

Kinda have to if you want it to be straight.

It's weird. :/
Nah I don't agree. Been using mainly Logitech mice for the past 15 years (some small timeframe exceptions), almost always ergo, mostly eggshell shapes, and this is a problem that's been with most if not all these mice. I'm holding it 1-2-2 because I just don't have good control with 1-3-1, so I don't want to change to Logitech's vision of a "good" grip. I guess I've adjusted my movements to it because I don't have a single problem with it. Can imagine though this is not for some people, esp. if you haven't been messed up like I apparantly have been
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#26 ·
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Originally Posted by popups View Post

Some sensors have that...
Hmm, I'm not talking about prediction or things like that. But imagine you turn 90º compensation on the option and suddenly when you move horizontally, the sensor goes vertically (but without skipping angle movement on your hand). Perfect straight horizontal lines will be perfect straight vertical lines, and imperfect horizontal lines will be imperfect vertical lines.
My english is kinda basic but maybe "tilting" os "rotating" is a better word?

Anyway. The only software I could find about this issue is here: http://www.maf-soft.de/mafmouse/

Give it a try and come back here!
 
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