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When will it be my turn to have a little devil phase change case biggrin.gif
I bought this unit (LD PC-V10) on 2nd hand, used, about 5 years ago, 350€ (~400usd). All my CPUs has been since 5.0-5.3Ghz, current 7700K just goes 5.4-5.5Ghz.
Edited by Hiikeri - 2/26/17 at 12:23am
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I bought this unit (LD PC-V10) on 2nd hand, used, about 5 years ago, 350€ (~400usd). All my CPUs has been since 5.0-5.3Ghz, current 7700K just goes 5.4-5.5Ghz.

lol that's awesome.. cheaper than water cooling to get 24/7 chilled. I haven't seen any way to get one in the states for a good price like that, but of course there are alternative / less pretty ways to phase change.
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All time 24/7 @5400 since release day, 1.5 month now. 5500 could be daily use also but it needs about 1.50V, then gaming temps are -0-10C.

Wow that's pretty cool!
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The thing is, switching to Ryzen will cost more for me. As I have invested quite a bit for this platform. Like I bought €100 EK monoblock for this motherboard and socket. Switching to Ryzen means throwing all that investment away.

Sure, Ryzen will obliterate 7700K in encryption software, winrar or 7zip compressions, x264 encoding or 3D rendering But I don't do any of those things with my PC, only game. And I don't even stream while I game,

So when I compare upgrading from 6700K to 7700K makes more sense than Ryzen 1800x to me . Because Ryzen will only decrease my FPS by costing more.
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are there any minumum framerate gaming benchmarks of overclocked 4c 8t vs overclocked 8c 16t or 10c 20t? 6700k vs. 5960x or 7700k vs. 6950x for example?
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How about adopting a term that already exists?


"Planned Obsolescence"


I prefer to plan my gaming laptop purchases early in a console cycle with the intent that they won't reach obsolescence until about the time a new console generation arrives. Most games will still have to run on a x86 PS4/PS4 Pro/XB1-S/Scorpio for the next ~5 years, so I'm not really concerned about not having more extra power than I already do.


It's possible that 6/8/10 core CPUs could use a lot more IPC to scale properly in games compared to a 7700k.

planned obsolescence is quite the opposite of what "futureproofing" is supposed to be.

in regards to this, planned obsolescence is meant to be replaced after a set duration.
where as "futureproofing" intends to exceed it's expected lifespan yet stay relevant, e.g. no need to upgrade.

to point out, if 3~5years ago i told you that 8C/16T processors would cost less than $400, would you believe me?
ironically just a couple of months ago people would call me deluded when i said 8C/16T would probably cost less than $400.
Edited by epic1337 - 2/26/17 at 1:30am
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Man, you live in your own little world, don't you?

Pro tip, the 8320 and 6300 existed.

Which were out shadowed by the ivy bridge CPUs as well as out-priced.
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Im wondering how cache is affecting performance. If someone with 2011-3 cpu could do test with only 4 cores enabled and show some results?
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Originally Posted by thegreatsquare View Post

How about adopting a term that already exists?


"Planned Obsolescence"


I prefer to plan my gaming laptop purchases early in a console cycle with the intent that they won't reach obsolescence until about the time a new console generation arrives. Most games will still have to run on a x86 PS4/PS4 Pro/XB1-S/Scorpio for the next ~5 years, so I'm not really concerned about not having more extra power than I already do.


It's possible that 6/8/10 core CPUs could use a lot more IPC to scale properly in games compared to a 7700k.

planned obsolescence is quite the opposite of what "futureproofing" is supposed to be.

in regards to this, planned obsolescence is meant to be replaced after a set duration.
where as "futureproofing" intends to exceed it's expected lifespan yet stay relevant, which is ironically quite improbable.

to point out, if 3~5years ago i'd tell you that 8C/16T processors would cost less than $400, would you believe me?
I know, but the success of futureproofing depends on outside factors. In a way, I just use the planned obsolescence of one consumer electronic [consoles] to guesstimate the futureproof-ness of a closely related consumer electronics [gaming PC systems/components]. System requirements jump with the start of a console cycle and plateaus, futureproofing is just what happens when you buy PC hardware that stays ahead of the plateau.

Trying to futureproof for the next generation's console plateau when the launch of it is ~5 years away is just being delusional.


Ryzen's socket is good to 2020 according to reports. A 1st gen hexcore would be a good choice now for just gaming and assessing the viability of futureproofing is something best left to later.
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Which were out shadowed by the ivy bridge CPUs as well as out-priced.

 

Yeah.

 

I built a few budget builds for some friends back then. Went Intel every single time.

 

Some still keep their original GPUs, some bought new ones, but all of them still have the same processors and don't seem to be needing any upgrade.

   
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