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post #1241 of 1994
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You may choose to believe whatever you want , but the reality is that if you have good airflow over the Titanium's heatsink it's hard to find a board with cooler running VRM's

I just want people to know what the truth is.

Even if the FETs are horrible, if you throw enough of them at a solution with decent enough cooling, you can get acceptable results.
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post #1242 of 1994

Disregarding the quality of the components, or the price, or the websites (what on Earth is that metric anyway), the X370 Titanium has by far the best heatsink, so it shouldn't be surprising it has better thermals.

 

Especially when there is good airflow.

   
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post #1243 of 1994
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You may choose to believe whatever you want , but the reality is that if you have good airflow over the Titanium's heatsink it's hard to find a board with cooler running VRM's

I just want people to know what the truth is.

Even if the FETs are horrible, if you throw enough of them at a solution with decent enough cooling, you can get acceptable results.

They can't be that bad though , I managed to get the MSI 990 Gaming into the 24/7 5 ghz club with an FX 8 core and it uses the same ones.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
The key is that they need to be kept cool - a good heatsink has been provided by MSI , all you need do is put some air to it.
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post #1244 of 1994
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They can't be that bad though , I managed to get the MSI 990 Gaming into the 24/7 5 ghz club with an FX 8 core and it uses the same ones.
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The key is that they need to be kept cool - a good heatsink has been provided by MSI , all you need do is put some air to it.

Pretty much what I was getting at. Granted, the price of the board is not justified considering the cost of the components and what else is out.
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post #1245 of 1994
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They can't be that bad though , I managed to get the MSI 990 Gaming into the 24/7 5 ghz club with an FX 8 core and it uses the same ones.
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The key is that they need to be kept cool - a good heatsink has been provided by MSI , all you need do is put some air to it.

Pretty much what I was getting at. Granted, the price of the board is not justified considering the cost of the components and what else is out.

Demand will start to slack a bit then the price should come down. Honesty though, If you had a product that was selling out would you lower the price?
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post #1246 of 1994
If I was meeting sales targets and making a huge profit margin, no.

As a consumer I would take build quality into account when buying at that price bracket though. So It wouldn't be something I would buy personally, but I'm a cheapskate.
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post #1247 of 1994
After knowing the crappy parts Titanium is using, how the hell are people still defending it... biggrin.gif

But it runs cooler...great...you are only forgetting to mention that if it runs any hotter the crappy vrms would blow!

Consumer - oh, i want to Overclock the hell out of mine 1800X, lets grab the most expessive AM4 mobo, it should be the best, right!?

MSI - There you go with your 8 usd vrm parts. Be happy with it. Thank you for feeding our marketing machine! And remember, our mobo runs cooler, less º = greater quality...we mean, everlasting quality!
Edited by Tasm - 4/30/17 at 1:24pm
post #1248 of 1994
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After knowing the crappy parts Titanium is using, how the hell are people still defending it... biggrin.gif

But it runs cooler...great...you are only forgetting to mention that if it runs any hotter the crappy vrms would blow!

Consumer - oh, i want to Overclock the hell out of mine 1800X, lets grab the most expessive AM4 mobo, it should be the best, right!?

MSI - There you go with your 8 usd vrm parts. Be happy with it. Thank you for feeding our marketing machine! And remember, our mobo runs cooler, less º = greater quality...we mean, everlasting quality!

I wouldn't be if it weren't doing as well or better than other boards.
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post #1249 of 1994
The Titanium is a good board. It's priced a bit high for what it offers, but I don't see many people disputing that. The build, phase design, and heatsinking are enough to keep performance parity with other top-range boards. My concern with MSI boards performance-wise is largely reserved for the lesser models which lack the mitigating elements that the Titanium's got. The Pro Carbon is a great-looking board, for example, but at a price point where it competes with the GT7 which outclasses it, and the Pro Carbon is also undercut by the Prime Pro which offers superior components in a very decent design.

I still think the lower-end MSI boards are fine for knowledgeable users, but newer overclockers should get plenty of advice on airflow and active VRM cooling before diving too deep with those motherboards.
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post #1250 of 1994
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After knowing the crappy parts Titanium is using, how the hell are people still defending it... biggrin.gif

But it runs cooler...great...you are only forgetting to mention that if it runs any hotter the crappy vrms would blow!

Consumer - oh, i want to Overclock the hell out of mine 1800X, lets grab the most expessive AM4 mobo, it should be the best, right!?

MSI - There you go with your 8 usd vrm parts. Be happy with it. Thank you for feeding our marketing machine! And remember, our mobo runs cooler, less º = greater quality...we mean, everlasting quality!

It works. even overclocked. Could debate about efficiency of JUST the mosfets til the cows come home, I will smile.gif, but it undeniably works, at load, with room to run hotter. Less expensive components and all.
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