Originally Posted by cssorkinman
I grabbed the Raytek Ranger ST and took some temps during an IBT AVX run at 4050 mhz at 1.424 volts +/-
HWINFO is pretty darn close on its VRM temps from what I see. 20 C ambient.Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Choke temps 37 was the hottest where it wasn't getting direct ariflow the ones under the fan were much cooler.
Hottest spot on the back side of motherboard I could find ( that I could get to ). ( no airflow on it) 48 C
Top of SOC VRM heatsink ( black area)
Top of cpu vrm heatsink ( black area )
Emissivity setting @ 95 - within 1C of ambient probe temp while scanning matte black surface of P5@bardacuda
I made a video, but my upload is 768k.... it would finish uploading about the time AM5 was released.
This is nice, but IBT would be a bad stress test to use for an apples to apples comparison. If you don't use exactly the right amount of RAM you can end up stressing the CPU different amounts, like you see below where it was only putting out ~155 GFlops. Since you don't have a screenshot of IBT in the above post at all it's impossible to tell what kind of stress the CPU was under. Again, I'm not suggesting you're fudging anything, but you could
be, so it doesn't settle anything.
Originally Posted by cssorkinman Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Removed the fan that was blowing on the soc vrm and the upper half of the cpu vrm and had a go at ibt very high.
Prime would have the same issues if one was to use blend or some variation on it, since capturing readings at different FFT sizes would still be apples and oranges. I think a good test would be something that is close-ish to worst case that Joe noob OCer might encounter. Maybe OCCT with default settings (should be a constant, reproducable, yet high load) after 1/2 hour or more, inside a case, with no fan on the VRM, @ 1.4+ VCore. Frequency at 3850 or less since I probably can't go any higher.
It shouldn't be unreasonable to expect MSI's flagship to perform well in that kind of scenario...and given its price point, putting it up against the Prime Pro is going easy on it. The argument that I have been seeing is that the VRM is good enough for Ryzen...and any shortcomings it might have in mosfet quality is made up for by exceptional design for heat dissipation...so let's put that to the test.
If you have slow upload speed, or don't have a case to put your system in or whatever, I understand and I'm not asking you to go out of the way to do it, or even asking you specifically to do anything.
I'm just throwing it out there that if anyone does have a Titanium, and wants to do a test using the conditions I mentioned in order to put an end to the arguing with some hard data, then I'll be glad to do the same test for comparison purposes.
It has to be something that is hard to fudge though, be apples to apples, and show that the board can do what the price point suggests it should be able to do. Otherwise, it would be a waste of time.