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post #931 of 1989
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Originally Posted by DADDYDC650 View Post

Still fighting for that overpriced MSI Titanium board I see?

Nope, just expecting *honest* comparisons, and a better *understanding* of what is really going on. Unlike many, I don't just like to accept whatever I am told or see on the internet. I *investigate*.

Not to mention, if the CH6 really can only push 120A (or less) at 125c, wouldn't you want to know that?



So, do you have anything intelligent to add to this discussion?
Edited by TheOldTechGuru - 4/17/17 at 8:45am
post #932 of 1989
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Originally Posted by TheOldTechGuru View Post

Nope, just expecting *honest* comparisons, and a better *understanding* of what is really going on. Unlike many, I don't just like to accept whatever I am told or see on the internet. I *investigate*.

Not to mention, if the CH6 really can only push 120A (or less) at 125c, wouldn't you want to know that?



So, do you have anything intelligent to add to this discussion?
It wouldn't be intelligent to get into a conversation with you in regards to that overpriced board. wink.gif
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post #933 of 1989
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It wouldn't be intelligent to get into a conversation with you in regards to that overpriced board. wink.gif

Hey, don't feel bad if you don't understand this. It's not simple. Most people want a simple answer they can just follow, like "this board has the best mosfets", without having to think about how effectively they are used or under what conditions they might actually be the best - such as when paired with poor cooling designs.

This has little to do with the Titanium. I have it and it performs as well or better than any other board, regardless of any "analysis".

This is about *understanding* the VRMs as well as the analysis of them. For one, the analysis between boards should be fair/accurate no matter which you pick. For another, there is more to VRM's than just the mosfets but focusing on that one aspect make it easy for people - to misjudge. Like when everyone focused on "Mhz" without taking into account IPC or other factors.
post #934 of 1989
Believe what you want to believe. The rest of us will live in the real world. rolleyes.gif
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Believe what you want to believe. The rest of us will live in the real world. rolleyes.gif

Holy crap that is a ignorant statement. Not sure what your "real" world like when you accept information you *believe* without question and dismiss information based on facts and research because you can't understand or prefer not to believe.

However, if you actually have *information* to share, please do. I simply pointed out the actual *specifications* from the manufacturer and how they do not even come close to what was presented in a review, showing either a bias, or a very blatant mistake. Either of which *should* be important to those who rely on *others telling them* what to understand (without citations)...which is way too many people.
post #936 of 1989
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Believe what you want to believe. The rest of us will live in the real world. rolleyes.gif

When it comes down to it, the board either performs or it doesn't - so far my Titanium is competitive with the boards I"ve seen in this forum.
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When it comes down to it, the board either performs or it doesn't - so far my Titanium is competitive with the boards I"ve seen in this forum.
Never said it didn't perform well enough. All I said is that it's overpriced, which it is. Some people get REALLY salty about it though.
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post #938 of 1989
I'd rather buy the asrock take the extra $100 apply that $$ to 32gb of ram the MSI CAN NOT RUN at optimal timings/speed.

Why can't it run?

It lacks a ref clock chip that gigabyte managed to shove on there K7 board for like less than $15 more than there gaming 5....while remaining competitive price wise with the majority of top tier boards.......
Edited by chew* - 4/17/17 at 10:12am
post #939 of 1989
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I'd rather buy the asrock take the extra $100 apply that $$ to 32gb of ram the MSI CAN NOT RUN at optimal timings/speed.

Why can't it run?

It lacks a ref clock chip that gigabyte managed to shove on there K7 board for like less than $15 more than there gaming 5....while remaining competitive price wise with the majority of top tier boards.......

I have no qualms with ASRock other than their warranty, although I hear they use varying components on the same board revision (from this thread - which I think is still being invesitgated)

The Titanium 1.4 BIOS enables modifying the on-chip BCLK, so what is the difference? Except the ASROCK now has more components on it to fail and greater complexity.
post #940 of 1989
Yah its stuck at 103....
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