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[YT] AMD Ryzen test

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#1 ·
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhKmeCdB914

Biggest Hardware publications in Turkey.
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To sum up the things stated in the video;

"Overclock is no problem at all. Though we can not say a certain frequency due to NDA, I can say that it is impressive. Overclockers will be happy."
"I have friends from AMD Engineering department due to my experience in the hardware industry. Zen 2 or Zen B will be even more competitive. So we can say that Intel shall brood on the future"
"With our overclocked 1800x sample,under Noctua cooler given by AMD, we have passed beyond the stock single thread performance of 7700k, in a specific bench, and the temps were great. We had no concern about temps during our run which passes the ST performance of 7700k."
"In some benchmarks AMD(!). It seems ironical yes but AMD is presenting a CPU performance that Intel can not keep up with even with their 10 core 6950x!"
"Breaking NDA won't be a problem since the scores are beyond fantastic. But we will stick with the tradition."
"With one click I can reach great OC's. So I won't really bother with the manual OC no more."
"Single thread score will be so great. According to this performance we can say that 7700K will be history, even for gaming, from now on" he said.
"Intel shall shake themself. Because Ryzen will be a great choice for Overclock enthusiast."
 
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#5 ·
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Originally Posted by dansi View Post

1800X despite its DDR4 microcode bug, and only a single tower Noctua cooler, has impressive overclock that was able to beat 6950X in some benchmarks! Can you say
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Let Intel use of cheap thermo paste come back and haunt them.
Pretty sure it isn't a 'bug'. Just need to create mature firmware.
 
#7 ·
I hope there is no difference in overclocking between 1700X and 1800X.
 
#8 ·
Unfortunately the only thing stopping me from going Ryzen right is the crap mATX motherboard selection. For my particular use case I need 2 slot spacing SLI support, which as of now does not appear to exist since every mATX board only has x4 speeds on the second x16 slot. I'm gonna end up on X79 for another 5 years at this pace.
 
#9 ·
Ryzen is also turbo boosting due to TDP conditions during the workload.. so good luck comparing clock vs clock..

Ryzen 1700, R15 bench = turbo boost 200mhz all cores

Ryzen 1700, SPi 32m bench = turbo boost 600mhz single core

...wth? Their "single threaded IPC" isnt beating KBL at the same clock from what I have seen.. its actually clocking single thread faster than the turbo boost frequency is set to.

**Anyone else seeing this? This is placebo clocks !! not real performance !! Reminds me of Intel Z77 launch and "media boost" ROFL
 
#11 ·
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Originally Posted by CL3P20 View Post

Ryzen is also turbo boosting due to TDP conditions during the workload.. so good luck comparing clock vs clock..

Ryzen 1700, R15 bench = turbo boost 200mhz all cores
Ryzen 1700, SPi 32m bench = turbo boost 600mhz single core

...wth? Their "single threaded IPC" isnt beating KBL at the same clock from what I have seen.. its actually clocking single thread faster than the turbo boost frequency is set to.

**Anyone else seeing this? This is placebo clocks !! not real performance !! Reminds me of Intel Z77 launch and "media boost" ROFL
That is the same way Intel turbo boost work, so no problemo. It is apple to apple not?
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I wonder if Ryzen turbo algorithm works even better!
 
#12 ·
LOL tech journalists can't tell the difference between IPS and IPC.
 
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Originally Posted by TMatzelle60 View Post

I don't think intel is shaking I just think now intel will have to make bigger performance jumps between generations instead of there 5-8%
Well 8-th gen is already set in stone. They have to compete with prices.
 
#15 ·
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Originally Posted by dansi View Post

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Originally Posted by CL3P20 View Post

Ryzen is also turbo boosting due to TDP conditions during the workload.. so good luck comparing clock vs clock..

Ryzen 1700, R15 bench = turbo boost 200mhz all cores
Ryzen 1700, SPi 32m bench = turbo boost 600mhz single core

...wth? Their "single threaded IPC" isnt beating KBL at the same clock from what I have seen.. its actually clocking single thread faster than the turbo boost frequency is set to.

**Anyone else seeing this? This is placebo clocks !! not real performance !! Reminds me of Intel Z77 launch and "media boost" ROFL
That is the same way Intel turbo boost work, so no problemo. It is apple to apple not?
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I wonder if Ryzen turbo algorithm works even better!
No its not really.

Intel turbo boost is set limit

Ryzen is boosting beyond advertised/set boost frequency

pretty sure its related to their XFR which is doing some TDP monitoring and supply telemetry to cores for operation..there are tons of sensors on these die. Either way.. you cant count on the CPU freq boosting to set freq.. it moves based on the workload, not # of cores
 
#17 ·
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Originally Posted by kd5151 View Post

By my calculations,ryzen needs to hit 4.6ghz to match 7700k stock single thread?
7700K stock is 4.5GHz.
 
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#18 ·
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Originally Posted by ZealotKi11er View Post

7700K stock is 4.5GHz.
That's why it needs to hit at least 4.6 because the ipc difference is around 5-10 %. With this way it will match the IPS of the 7700k based on the workflow.

But ipc changes based on workflow so sometimes the ryzen could be faster.
 
#19 ·
Um.....

CHOOOOO CHOOOOOO!
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#21 ·
AMD just needs a competitive IPC and power envelope.

That's what sunk them with Bulldozer... a cut down, low speed Bulldozer-based CPU would pointless for mobile.

Intel's great IPC and power is what made 2-core parts so attractive to low-end laptops.
 
#22 ·
I think the real star for AMD from this arch should be Naples. AMD is not going to survive by selling these CPU's to consumers. The real honey pot is in corporate sales.
 
#26 ·
I think I speak for everyone here in that if an 1800X can reach 4.4-4.5 Ghz overclocking on air, we will have a winner for sure. Anything higher than that is icing on the cake.
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