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Boot time issues seem to be related to memory training for the most part. One way to test this is use only one stick and default values and see if the long boot times remain.

Peripherals may also impact the boot times (internal and or external). Adding one by one is something that should be done by those affected and once identified should be reported to iron out compatibility issues.
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Boot times are in the low 20's ( seconds) for me , what are you seeing?

From power on until the MSI logo - 34.5 seconds
From MSI logo to logon screen - 10.5 seconds


These have been pretty consistent since the 1.10 BIOS.

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Boot time issues seem to be related to memory training for the most part. One way to test this is use only one stick and default values and see if the long boot times remain.

Peripherals may also impact the boot times (internal and or external). Adding one by one is something that should be done by those affected and once identified should be reported to iron out compatibility issues.

This is about normal unless I am applying changes in bios.

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Good one MSI they just released a bios for b350 Mortar Artic and top tier X370 Titanium gets nothing, man good to see MSI have their priorities all sorted puke.gif

Looks like most of the b350 line got a new bios with support for AMD Ryzen 5 CPU....lol if that is all it is, wonder if it's AGESA 1.0.0.4 yet but still slack they offer support for b350 line before the X370 line. doh.gif

Just ordered a ASRock Taichi will be here tomorrow, the MSI can go in the cupboard for a couple of months till they get the next bios out whistle.gif
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Update # 1

Microcode used in latest bios for b350 line is; same microcode version as the Titanium's now defunct 1.41 beta which was microcode 800111c

This is from AGESA 1.0.0.3......W~T~F MSI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So what the mods said on MSI forum about AMD code being dodgy so they pulled all the beta bios was a croc of C~R~A~P in light of the fact that they have now gone and released bios based on that same code.

Wish I could post on those forums I'd stick it to them so hard after this revelation. thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif
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Update # 1

Microcode used in latest bios for b350 line is; same microcode version as the Titanium's now defunct 1.41 beta which was microcode 800111c

This is from AGESA 1.0.0.3......W~T~F MSI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So what the mods said on MSI forum about AMD code being dodgy so they pulled all the beta bios was a croc of C~R~A~P in light of the fact that they have now gone and released bios based on that same code.

Wish I could post on those forums I'd stick it to them so hard after this revelation. thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif

There are already comments about just that starting to fly on that forum. Not seeing much in the way of responses from the mods yet...but they are MSI shills anyway (they can deny all they want, but their behavior and attitude says otherwise).

I am still happy with *the motherboard*, but they have already released at least 2 updated revisions of this board based on part numbers so I want to know if the few issues I have seen can be resolved with BIOS updates...
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There are already comments about just that starting to fly on that forum. Not seeing much in the way of responses from the mods yet...but they are MSI shills anyway (they can deny all they want, but their behavior and attitude says otherwise).

I am still happy with *the motherboard*, but they have already released at least 2 updated revisions of this board based on part numbers so I want to know if the few issues I have seen can be resolved with BIOS updates...
If there is issues that can't be fixed with a bios update wouldn't they have to replace boards? I have yet to have an issue but i will take a revision lol.
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I've run 4 ghz+ with 2x8 cl 14 1T @ 3200 mhz since the second boot on bios 1.1...... the board does not need a bios update to run fast and stable - it's as simple as that.
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I've run 4 ghz+ with 2x8 cl 14 1T @ 3200 mhz since the second boot on bios 1.1...... the board does not need a bios update to run fast and stable - it's as simple as that.

Your anecdotal evidence is not proof.
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I've run 4 ghz+ with 2x8 cl 14 1T @ 3200 mhz since the second boot on bios 1.1...... the board does not need a bios update to run fast and stable - it's as simple as that.

I agree with that. Since day 1 with people having ram issues especially on the chv6, i spent some time nailing down what ram kits are samsung before making my purchase. So i don't feel bad about those having issues with it. No offense, but if i can spend a few hrs on google and figure it out, anyone can. But if new code has some form of performance gain, i will take it when it is available. I am not upset at msi for taking the time on releasing an update if it is implemented with no drawbacks.
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I've run 4 ghz+ with 2x8 cl 14 1T @ 3200 mhz since the second boot on bios 1.1...... the board does not need a bios update to run fast and stable - it's as simple as that.

To be fair, and complete, what that actually means is the board doesn't need a BIOS update to run at those speeds *with the specific components* you selected. It's rather disingenuous to extrapolate your experience to a general statement since we have all heard multiple reports of users having trouble running their memory above 2400 and sometimes above 2133.
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