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post #661 of 1120
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Originally Posted by philke View Post

A few more bios updates and this board will rock.

IOMMU grouping still needs a lot of work to consider the board ready, it's borked atm. ACS seems to be broken, so motherboard lumps all devices into two big groups - two GPU slots in one and almost all the rest (SATA, USB, NVMe, onboard ETH, other PCI-E slots) in the other. Only onboard audio is separate.

Other vendors seem to have the same problem though. Afaik no board has proper implementation yet.
post #662 of 1120
That bios allows me to overclock my ram thats rated for 3000 to 3200. Spot on MSI outstanding :>
post #663 of 1120
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Originally Posted by Mega Man View Post

there has been a few but i cant find it in the thread, it maoves too fast and i frankly dont have time
@chew* ended up being prime 24 hours stable.

like i said there has been others.... feel free to pop in that thread to find them
could not care less about this to be honest - great thing about water cooling is we dont care about component temps. we care about water to air delta.

most probably couldnt care less


Edit @os2wiz

http://www.overclock.net/t/1624139/official-ryzen-7-1800x-1700x-1700-owners-club-4ghz-club/8550#post_26005180



64gb
Thank you for the reference Mega. I have serious doubts about veracity. 16GBG dimms are all dual ranked and then on top of it he is using all 4 dimm slots with dual ranked dimms. I find it incredulous to say the least. By the way I installed the 1.40 bios today which has stability, memory compatibility improvements,and reduction in latencies. I have tried several attempts with various techniques to run all 4 dimms which are Flare X Samsung B-die. This bios is actually worse than 1.30 and 1.10 as far as running all 4dimms. Before I could achieve 2400mhz with stability with ease. Now on version 1.40 I can NOT achieve 2400mhz at all only 2133mhz. So I can accurately call this new bios a regression in handling all 4 dimm slots. Perhaps for non- B-die memory there may be some improvements,I do NOT know.
post #664 of 1120
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Originally Posted by os2wiz View Post

Thank you for the reference Mega. I have serious doubts about veracity. 16GBG dimms are all dual ranked and then on top of it he is using all 4 dimm slots with dual ranked dimms. I find it incredulous to say the least. By the way I installed the 1.40 bios today which has stability, memory compatibility improvements,and reduction in latencies. I have tried several attempts with various techniques to run all 4 dimms which are Flare X Samsung B-die. This bios is actually worse than 1.30 and 1.10 as far as running all 4dimms. Before I could achieve 2400mhz with stability with ease. Now on version 1.40 I can NOT achieve 2400mhz at all only 2133mhz. So I can accurately call this new bios a regression in handling all 4 dimm slots. Perhaps for non- B-die memory there may be some improvements,I do NOT know.

I noticed that issue when I tested 1.41 before it was pulled and I rolled back. I dropped down to 2 DIMMs after that. I am going to play more to see what I can get these two to run at and then I may try 4 DIMMs again, but in reality I don't *need* more than 16GB now...
post #665 of 1120
FYI

I have gotten my all 4 slots filled with 32GB

I have been able to run @ 2400 the whole time including Bios 1.1

G.Skills Tridentz DDR4 F4 3200c16Q 32GTZB

updated bios to 1.4 official

ram @2400

Still won't post past 2400
post #666 of 1120
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Originally Posted by TheOldTechGuru View Post

You will almost certainly need to bump the NB voltage.

What I saw when running AIDA64 is the CPU cores would would drop, indicating a voltage drop there. With the integrated IMC, higher speed memory puts more strain on the CPU itself. What I haven't worked out is whether simply focusing on the NB (maybe via LLC tweaks) will solve the issue, or of CPU core voltage needs to be tweaked. Infinity Fabric speed is directly related to memory speed. I don't know if the NB provides the voltage for that or if CPU core does...

When I got home today, I tweaked the NB voltage just a bit, set the cpu to 1.375 and cranked the CPU up to 3.9 on all 8 cores, it runs fine so far. might try backing voltages down in steps to see when it stops working, that will give me a baseline, then see what I have to do to get it over 4.0 or 4.1
post #667 of 1120
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Originally Posted by TheOldTechGuru View Post

I noticed that issue when I tested 1.41 before it was pulled and I rolled back. I dropped down to 2 DIMMs after that. I am going to play more to see what I can get these two to run at and then I may try 4 DIMMs again, but in reality I don't *need* more than 16GB now...

That is what I am doing as well.I have 4 dimms all 8GB single rank and Samsung B-die. With 2 dimms I can achieve 3200mhz without problem. I wouldlike to OC to 3466mhz,but I see no option in bios to do so. The menu only shows as high as 3200. Maybe if I do not use XMP It will allow me to enter a higher memory frequency. I will give it a try. But i really would like the 32 GB of memory from four dimms if I could run it at least at 2933mhz. We will see with next month's promised memory improvements.
post #668 of 1120
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Originally Posted by samsoundguy View Post

FYI

I have gotten my all 4 slots filled with 32GB

I have been able to run @ 2400 the whole time including Bios 1.1

G.Skills Tridentz DDR4 F4 3200c16Q 32GTZB

updated bios to 1.4 official

ram @2400

Still won't post past 2400

So what did you do to enable 2400mhz on bios 1.4. I was able to run at 2400 with a similar memory configuration up through bios 1.3 on 1.4I have tried everything and I still can not reach 2400mhz with.4 dimms
post #669 of 1120
I think any of you guys running SK Hynix RAM at 3200 should run through Memtest86 overnight. I have CMU16GX4M2C3200C16s (ver. 5.39), and it POSTs and boots up fine at 3200 on 1.40 stable; can even bench it, play games, etc. (1700x @ 3.8GHz, 1.26v vCore, 1.0v NB/SoC)

However, when I ran it through Memtest, there were some 1-bit errors in test 7 (81 of them, in fact). Test 7 is: [Moving inversions, 32-bit pattern]. This occurs at any RAM voltage up to 1.45v and any NB voltage up to 1.2v. I wasn't willing to go any higher than that. 1-bit doesn't seem like much, but when you're doing millions of operations, it adds up.

So, while it does work, you may eventually corrupt some data in the long run and you might see random application crashes from time to time if you have similar memory errors. Some don't care as long as it boots. That's fine too, but I don't consider that stable. Many of the timings still aren't being set correctly too, so some RAM ICs might be more tolerant of that. Mine aren't, at least at 3200.

tRC is higher than XMP spec at 75 (3200 spec is 54)
tRFC is set extremely aggressively at 312T (3200 spec for my modules is 559T)

I re-ran Memtest at 14-14-14-28 at 2933 (0.850v NB/SoC, 1.35v RAM), and there were 0 errors in all tests (interesting, as the XMP timings for 2900 are 15-17-17-34). My 1700x's IMC seems tolerant of higher speeds without much of a voltage bump.

Here's an example of the memory errors in my Memtest logfile:

2017-04-14 11:01:30 - [MEM ERROR - Data] Test: 7, CPU: 15, Address: 4AF94EC4, Expected: FFDFFFFF, Actual: FFDFFF7F
2017-04-14 11:01:30 - [MEM ERROR - Data] Test: 7, CPU: 3, Address: 1A503744, Expected: 00000100, Actual: 00000180
2017-04-14 11:01:30 - [MEM ERROR - Data] Test: 7, CPU: 12, Address: 3EAC5344, Expected: 00400000, Actual: 00400080

It's always just 1-bit out of place. So, it can go undetected in normal usage until things start acting weird. Same behavior as the 1.41 beta.

YMMV, as always with silicon.
post #670 of 1120
Missed a couple pages. Any of you having luck with memory speed stability on 1.4 BIOS? (on MSI site as of april 11th).

Just did some fast messing with things but couldnt get either xmp profile to work. Also tried manually setting my RAMs SPD with extra voltage to dram and nb. Theres a new "memory tryit!" Option with a bunch of memory profiles, i tried the one that just about mached my SPD (it had extra voltage) and it just bricked the thing. Cleared CMOS and went back to stock memory speeds. Supposedly this bios even has the updated AGESA code. Using G.Skill Flare X 3200 14-14-14-34 and an 1800X @4ghz.
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