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post #701 of 1083
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I would say poor performance/$ compared to air. But i agree i would either go air or custom loop. No in-between. But i have been custom loop for a decade and see nothing less as acceptable at this point. The only thing i see as beneficial from clc is it has made ppl much more comfortable with the concept of water cooling.

Personally I prefer air cooling solutions because they are likely to be more quiet than pump/fans combo. AC is also cheaper and less likely to fail/damage other components. I don't want to do full WC because of price, hassle, possibility to fail/leak. I don't like to do a lot of maintenance either. I want to build something that looks nice/clean and big AC might be too distracting.
post #702 of 1083
I have done both closed loop, open loop, and big air in the past, I prefer to use air cooling on my own builds simply for the lower maintenance required.

I can aknowledge the superior heat dissipation of a quality open loop cooling solution, but there is a cost and convenience hassle involved. That being said, at this point I am not convinced the larger air coolers are going to efficient enough on this platform to deal with extreme overclocks.
My own experiments thus far on Ryzen show that a very large phanteks heatsink with dual 140mm fans just do not keep up with the upper thermal limits at 4.1 ghz, at that point, you start to see core temps approaching the mid 80c range, and thats getting pretty darned hot for long term operation.
post #703 of 1083
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I have done both closed loop, open loop, and big air in the past, I prefer to use air cooling on my own builds simply for the lower maintenance required.

I can aknowledge the superior heat dissipation of a quality open loop cooling solution, but there is a cost and convenience hassle involved. That being said, at this point I am not convinced the larger air coolers are going to efficient enough on this platform to deal with extreme overclocks.
My own experiments thus far on Ryzen show that a very large phanteks heatsink with dual 140mm fans just do not keep up with the upper thermal limits at 4.1 ghz, at that point, you start to see core temps approaching the mid 80c range, and thats getting pretty darned hot for long term operation.

Air coolers have gotten really good. I also like the fact they don't store so much thermal energy - when you drop your CPU load your temps drop almost instantly. I am disappointed that there haven't been any quality heat pump designs (Piezo with heat pipes). I guess they just can't handle the thermal load. They were around for a short time but were poor designs - either building up frost or burning up...
post #704 of 1083
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post #707 of 1083
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Is there any significance to this other than a "cool factor" for getting that level of zoom on the tiny resistor?
post #708 of 1083
i have this board and 1700x, it perform worse than my a10 apu system when playing wot and aut0cad...it's just a meme

i have team t-force night hawk rated 3200Mhz., but only run 2133...anything higher than that, the system runs, but no display, debug code shows 55, ram is not recognised or something like that. i have to reset the bios if that happens.

fan control, is crap compared to my a88x-g43 gaming.
i have updated the bios with version 1.4 btw. there's new setting for the memory, but none works.
post #709 of 1083
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i have this board and 1700x, it perform worse than my a10 apu system when playing wot and aut0cad...it's just a meme

i have team t-force night hawk rated 3200Mhz., but only run 2133...anything higher than that, the system runs, but no display, debug code shows 55, ram is not recognised or something like that. i have to reset the bios if that happens.

fan control, is crap compared to my a88x-g43 gaming.
i have updated the bios with version 1.4 btw. there's new setting for the memory, but none works.

have you tried the a-xmp profiles at all? or set the timings manually, frequency to 2933 and tried putting 1.35 volts for ram in the power menu? boost the NB voltage a bit too? Those are the steps to try and get it working. (do all this while running the CPU at stock clocks )

It's really a step by step, painstaking process to get it right. start low and work your way up if you can't hit 2933 right away.
post #710 of 1083
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have you tried the a-xmp profiles at all? or set the timings manually, frequency to 2933 and tried putting 1.35 volts for ram in the power menu? boost the NB voltage a bit too? Those are the steps to try and get it working. (do all this while running the CPU at stock clocks )

It's really a step by step, painstaking process to get it right. start low and work your way up if you can't hit 2933 right away.

yes...and the system would shut down a couple of times and runs with full blown fan speed...with no display
can i have link for tuning this thing?
and my CPU-z and HW monitor wont load...it just disappear after detection completed....
Edited by javamocha - 4/16/17 at 9:13pm
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