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I would *start* with the AMD guide:

https://www.amd.com/system/files/2017-03/AMD-Ryzen-Processor-and-AMD-Ryzen-Master-Overclocking-Users-Guide.pdf

But just to get an understand of what is involved, safe voltages, etc.

Then I would come back to sources such as this forum for specific questions as you have them.

Thank you
post #732 of 1106
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Originally Posted by TheOldTechGuru View Post

I would *start* with the AMD guide:

https://www.amd.com/system/files/2017-03/AMD-Ryzen-Processor-and-AMD-Ryzen-Master-Overclocking-Users-Guide.pdf

But just to get an understand of what is involved, safe voltages, etc.

Then I would come back to sources such as this forum for specific questions as you have them.

Thank you

http://www.overclock.net/t/1628281/msi-x370-titanium-1800x-4-ghz-cl-14-3200-mhz-made-easy

I posted my easy 4 ghz settings there. Use at your own risk of course - ram settings will be very dependant on your kit - don't enable Xamp if you don't have a very good set of single rank dimms with only 2 slots populated.
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post #733 of 1106
AHA !!!!


I'm the poster that had the vcore reading in HWmon fluctuating between .6v and 1.44 volts.

IT WAS THE CORE C6 STATE .


Now my vcore is basically locked at 1.2 vcore unless i run prime95 in which case it lowers to a locked 1.192 .

So if you're a vcore paranoid nut like i am and have the same issues disable core c6 in the bios .
post #734 of 1106
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Personally I prefer air cooling solutions because they are likely to be more quiet than pump/fans combo. AC is also cheaper and less likely to fail/damage other components. I don't want to do full WC because of price, hassle, possibility to fail/leak. I don't like to do a lot of maintenance either. I want to build something that looks nice/clean and big AC might be too distracting.

I totally disagree. There are quality AIO's with expandibility options like Swiftech and Alphacool Eisbaer 360. My system is quiet and relatively quiet even under full load. Big cooling fans are much noisier than a properly configured water cooling system. Pump noise is not an issue if the pump is designed properly.
post #735 of 1106
Those are not clcs. They use actual water cooling components instead of recycled junk, (looking at a specific patent troll here)
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post #736 of 1106
I had exceptionally good luck with the first 3 clc's I purchased for personal use and almost as bad a luck with the last 1.

Over 20 Clc's in service at the moment - 1 failure of a high hour 3 year old unit and a GTX 100i that failed in the first 3 months. They were decent for handling FX's spikey heat loads , but Ryzen may be different enough that a decent air cooler might be a more practical solution. Still hate the idea of that much weight hanging off the motherboard though.
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post #737 of 1106
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Those are not clcs. They use actual water cooling components instead of recycled junk, (looking at a specific patent troll here)

Yes of course you are correct but since they are sold as closed ready to use systems,they are in the never-never land of technically being AIO's that are at the same time expandable. The quality of my Alphacool Eisbaer amazes me ,especially since I bought it new for less than$150. Very cool,very quiet.
post #738 of 1106
So played a little more with OC'ing my chip and got to 3.9Ghz stable (AIDA64 stress test) at 1.3625v, LLC1 and NB at 1.05v. Memory is currently (2) 8 GB DIMMs running at 2999.

VRM peaked at 57c, CPU stayed about 74c with occasional spikes (I think AIDA64 must push the cache hard every couple of minutes based on the temp graph). CPU temps at idle are about 35c.

Voltage at the CPU sensor in HWinfo64 measured a low of 1.362v and a max of 1.362v (LLC1 really seems to work...)

I think this is as high as I want to go with my Noctua 12S cooler. I am happy with the voltages and temps and don't think it's worth upgrading to liquid cooling to reach 4.0/4.1Ghz...
post #739 of 1106
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So played a little more with OC'ing my chip and got to 3.9Ghz stable (AIDA64 stress test) at 1.3625v, LLC1 and NB at 1.05v. Memory is currently (2) 8 GB DIMMs running at 2999.

VRM peaked at 57c, CPU stayed about 74c with occasional spikes (I think AIDA64 must push the cache hard every couple of minutes based on the temp graph). CPU temps at idle are about 35c.

Voltage at the CPU sensor in HWinfo64 measured a low of 1.362v and a max of 1.362v (LLC1 really seems to work...)

I think this is as high as I want to go with my Noctua 12S cooler. I am happy with the voltages and temps and don't think it's worth upgrading to liquid cooling to reach 4.0/4.1Ghz...

100% not worth upgrading. Am stable at 1.32v 3.9ghz but after playing with 4ghz at 1.42v which was stable it crashed randomly today. So am looking at 1.43 or 1.44 for 4.0 and in your case 1.48v+
post #740 of 1106
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Originally Posted by TheOldTechGuru View Post

So played a little more with OC'ing my chip and got to 3.9Ghz stable (AIDA64 stress test) at 1.3625v, LLC1 and NB at 1.05v. Memory is currently (2) 8 GB DIMMs running at 2999.

VRM peaked at 57c, CPU stayed about 74c with occasional spikes (I think AIDA64 must push the cache hard every couple of minutes based on the temp graph). CPU temps at idle are about 35c.

Voltage at the CPU sensor in HWinfo64 measured a low of 1.362v and a max of 1.362v (LLC1 really seems to work...)

I think this is as high as I want to go with my Noctua 12S cooler. I am happy with the voltages and temps and don't think it's worth upgrading to liquid cooling to reach 4.0/4.1Ghz...

I need 1.3875v for a stable and highest performance 3.8 ghz, LLC1 and NB at 1.15V
Also try to set the CPU NB Loadline Calibration to Mode 1 (It made a big improvement in my cinebench score!!).

To get my cpu to 3.9 ghz I need already 1.43 volt and to get to 3.95 ghz, I needed 1.5 volt. I'm on liquid cooling, temps are fine but I'm not risking these high voltages for daily use.
3.8 ghz is the sweetspot for my Ryzen 1700 cpu.
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