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post #821 of 1106
Right there with you. The 600p isn't exactly a fast NMVe drive, but is still noticeably faster than a standard SSD, and was a great option for the price. At some point I will relegate it to the second M.2 slot when I can pick up a faster NMVe for a comparable price...
post #822 of 1106
I opted for the 1TB, instead of a 512gb faster drive. Only because I know my personal software and data habits. I already have 3 regular 4tb drives, and they are mostly full already, so 512gb didn't seem like a good choice at the time. HD and Bluray movies take up a ton of space. Video processing as well, which is why I wanted the 1TB
post #823 of 1106
I have a NAS with about 24 TB of usable storage to store my crap and large files, which has allowed me to trim down my local storage and keep my boot drive modest...but I still have 1.5 TB of solid state storage and another 2TB of disk storage locally anyway..games just keep taking up more and more space. :-)
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and i dont understand why you need " clkgen" its useless and i dont want pcie 2 or 1.... you can enjoy it all you want -

i will be buying an asus but i waiting for the "formula" and may skip x370 and buying asus only for x399, that said i may buy a second x399 msi rig. --- quadfire needs PCIE3

So you do not believe in FSB overclocking? Always improved my graphics and gaming performance on My Crosshair V formula Z. Are you sure their will be a Formula board from Asus and or a Sabertooth with next generation Zen???
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I don't understand, why would you pay such premium for no CLKGEN ?

Ryzen has an internal BLCK which can be enabled via BIOS. Screwing with BLCK causes too many other issues anyway. I think MSI is actually smart for not including an external BLCK and they may decide to not enable the CPU BLCK because it creates more problems for them than it is worth (added circuit complexity and more components to fail)...unless you like crippling PCIe and causing instability with onboard components.
i agree
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Maybe i'm tripping or smth, but isnt CLKGEN the only way to get past 3200MHz RAM without screwing everything ?

It depends on what multipliers are available on that MB.

You can use BLCK to bump ram speed, but all your other subsystems pay the price.

Your X370 chipset which provides all SATA, USB, and PCI3 2/0 lanes relies on 4 PCIe 3.0 lanes. If you cripple those four lanes to bump your memory, you have now bottle-necked all of those devices. Hardly worth it.


exactly my point expanding further, if you go too far, you get pcie 2.0 on gpus, and further still although i have not tested it i have heard it goes to pcie 1...... yes pcie 1....
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Right there with you. The 600p isn't exactly a fast NMVe drive, but is still noticeably faster than a standard SSD, and was a great option for the price. At some point I will relegate it to the second M.2 slot when I can pick up a faster NMVe for a comparable price...

tbh i dont care about fast storage, i want reliable - at sdd speeds, we can not really feel the difference anymore imo at this time ....
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I have a NAS with about 24 TB of usable storage to store my crap and large files, which has allowed me to trim down my local storage and keep my boot drive modest...but I still have 1.5 TB of solid state storage and another 2TB of disk storage locally anyway..games just keep taking up more and more space. :-)

same here more or less ( currently have 6 4tb in my nas along with about 12 tb in this pc, and about 8 tb in others..... nas has ~ 24tb useable--- looking to upgrade to 7x8 or 10 tb hdds for a total useable of 28-40 tb )
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post #825 of 1106
I finally gave up on my dual rank Crucial RAMs. And just bought some 3200 CL14 2x8gb Tridents (p/n F43200C14D), known as single rank and on the qvl. Booted to 3200 with no problems, after setting voltages first and rebooting. I'm on bios 1.52.

However, right after I bought the new Tridents, I noticed Crucial released a single rank DDR4. My old ram was Crucial, so I might just buy these new Crucials and switch again. Anyway if anyone likes Crucial as well, I noticed they now have single rank 3433 ram. Only available directly from Crucial as far as I can tell.

 
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post #826 of 1106
so has anyone been able to get 3200mhz or at least 2933 without overclocking using samsung b-die?
post #827 of 1106
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so has anyone been able to get 3200mhz or at least 2933 without overclocking using samsung b-die?
Has anyone tried manual overclocking as well?
post #828 of 1106
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Has anyone tried manual overclocking as well?

Your question is somewhat confusing. According to JEDEC standards for memory, ANY speed on DDR4 above 2400 IS OVERCLOCKING. It doesn't matter if you set the timings and voltage and speed manually, that is overclocking. XMP profiles are also technically overclocking, MSI a-xmp is also overclocking. Just various methods of getting there.
post #829 of 1106
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Your question is somewhat confusing. According to JEDEC standards for memory, ANY speed on DDR4 above 2400 IS OVERCLOCKING. It doesn't matter if you set the timings and voltage and speed manually, that is overclocking. XMP profiles are also technically overclocking, MSI a-xmp is also overclocking. Just various methods of getting there.

Yes, so I am asking about the manual one biggrin.gif
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so has anyone been able to get 3200mhz or at least 2933 without overclocking using samsung b-die?[/quote


With 2 dimms it is quite easy on dimms with Samsung b-die as long as the chip is rated to run at ddr4 3200. I have G.Skill Flare X DDR4 3200 dimms cas latency 14-14-14-24 . Those cl numbers give it away that these are b-die chips with very tight timings.
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