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new official bios E7A31AMS.150
i can now run 3200 mhz on my trident z f4 ram finaly instead of the 2933 mhz , 3.95 ghz on all core atm will increase for test soon.
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Just for the record I got 4 slots dram 2667 on bios 1.5 official

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You guys are well better read on this than I am. 1700X, G.Skill Trident Z 2x16Gb CL15, Sammy 960 Evo 500Gb. Boot is slow, but I hear that's cause of the Sammy. Can't get my RAM over 2400 stable, but I haven't messed with timings much or manually setting everything. However, @2400 I'm running CL12 stable. The RAM is double sided, but I think it's Samsung chips. XMP is 3200CL15. Everyone seems to be running CL14 or CL16 RAM. Would I be better served trading my 15s for 14s? I've had the memory for a while. Oh ya, 3900 1.35v llc4 stable.
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You guys are well better read on this than I am. 1700X, G.Skill Trident Z 2x16Gb CL15, Sammy 960 Evo 500Gb. Boot is slow, but I hear that's cause of the Sammy. Can't get my RAM over 2400 stable, but I haven't messed with timings much or manually setting everything. However, @2400 I'm running CL12 stable. The RAM is double sided, but I think it's Samsung chips. XMP is 3200CL15. Everyone seems to be running CL14 or CL16 RAM. Would I be better served trading my 15s for 14s? I've had the memory for a while. Oh ya, 3900 1.35v llc4 stable.

What bios are you running?
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Sorry, 1.5 official. It seems to get better every revision, kinda scared to try the beta bioss I see floating around.
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You guys are well better read on this than I am. 1700X, G.Skill Trident Z 2x16Gb CL15, Sammy 960 Evo 500Gb. Boot is slow, but I hear that's cause of the Sammy. Can't get my RAM over 2400 stable, but I haven't messed with timings much or manually setting everything. However, @2400 I'm running CL12 stable. The RAM is double sided, but I think it's Samsung chips. XMP is 3200CL15. Everyone seems to be running CL14 or CL16 RAM. Would I be better served trading my 15s for 14s? I've had the memory for a while. Oh ya, 3900 1.35v llc4 stable.

The MSI qvl is a good guide. You can see there that ram rated 3200 should be C14 to work. If rated 3600 and above, it can work at 3200 regardless of Cas I think. Also the 32gb(2x16) seems to be dual ranks, so avoid those for now.

Heres a good reference to compatible ram: http://www.overclock.net/t/1627555/ryzen-memory-ic-collection-thread
 
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The MSI qvl is a good guide. You can see there that ram rated 3200 should be C14 to work. If rated 3600 and above, it can work at 3200 regardless of Cas I think. Also the 32gb(2x16) seems to be dual ranks, so avoid those for now.

Heres a good reference to compatible ram: http://www.overclock.net/t/1627555/ryzen-memory-ic-collection-thread

Had the RAM from my old intel build. It was 165$ new from newegg, but times they are a changin. Same RAM today is around 300$. With the intel boards RAM speeds don't amount to much of a difference in real world metrics at the end of the day, but that seems to be different with Ryzen. On the other hand, I'm in no rush and don't worry too much about benchies. I was wondering if people were going lower with their cas rather than up with their data rate and how that affected things. Cas is the actual speed, when I buy I try to balance. I don't want the 4000 35-35-35 RAM, likewise, I don't want the 1600 10-10-10.
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My casual observation using Passmark benchmark: there is some inherent latency delays with Ryzen related to the cache. There is some discussion on this at Reddit if you do a search. Anyway I think tighter ram timings cannot overcome this cpu latency so it doesnt help as much even if you lower Cas. My Passmark memory latency score is 3x lower than a comparable Intel system in Passmark. However the CPU score scales very well with higher ram speed. 4.0ghz with 2400mhz has same score as 3.8 and 3200. This is just benchmark score.
 
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Had the RAM from my old intel build. It was 165$ new from newegg, but times they are a changin. Same RAM today is around 300$. With the intel boards RAM speeds don't amount to much of a difference in real world metrics at the end of the day, but that seems to be different with Ryzen. On the other hand, I'm in no rush and don't worry too much about benchies. I was wondering if people were going lower with their cas rather than up with their data rate and how that affected things. Cas is the actual speed, when I buy I try to balance. I don't want the 4000 35-35-35 RAM, likewise, I don't want the 1600 10-10-10.

I had a similar situation... got a good deal on my ram, next week it was ~30% up. With Ryzen most people seem to go for raw speed over cas latency because the infinity fabric that links the CCXs ticks at ram speed (or so I've heard). The sweet spot seems to be 3200MHz with diminishing returns stopping at around 3600MHz. The actual benefit of faster RAM seems to vary between 5-15% at lower (1080) resolutions. Some games and applications are impacted more than others, platform optimisation probably plays a yuge role.
Edited by dreadrazor - 4/29/17 at 2:42pm
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Just for the record I got 4 slots dram 2667 on bios 1.5 official

I got 4 slots dram 2667 working already on bios 1.1. But with every bios update (or beta) still nothing higher.....
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