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post #10111 of 11756
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Originally Posted by Skyl3r View Post

I agree with you about the hype for 3200MHz being not necessarily a great thing.

What do you mean you don't wanna push 1.6v 24/7 biggrin.gif

I use 3200 @ 1.4v. I don't know what you're talking about. I also bought a $230 kit of RAM and not some low quality Corsair Kits.
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Originally Posted by chew* View Post

Hmm ok mus i will make a few emails.

Quite sure i can motivate them to get me a few bios.

F3 has a bug with ref clock...works fine till multi is not auto... Or at least 30x works and 32.50 did not..

Need to test some more but first i need to complete my degredation testing.

See if 1.6v has damaged cpu...so far...looks like the chip seems to not care and be fine...

3 session 8 hours @ 1.6.

Still rips prime @ 3.9 @ 1.40v...

Check over on the K7 thread. I've posted about this a few times. BCLK OC is extremely unstable on F3. I throw error codes or straight up crash in the BIOS if I touch it.

Seeing as I bought the board for BCLK OC I am pretty frustrated.

I also sent Gigabyte an email the other day, but apparently they're off at a trade show this week.

Also I run @ 135 BCLK to get 3600 but I think I experienced degredation as I can't do it anymore

^ Just multiply clocks by 135 as Userbenchmark doesn't record the results properly. The RAM / CPU scores should "prove" that something is up.
Edited by Secret Dragoon - 4/26/17 at 11:12am
post #10112 of 11756
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Originally Posted by Scotty99 View Post

Oh so you actually think hynix will never be able to hit 3200 on this platform.

So in other words, people with R3's R5's will never have 3200 ram, because they cant afford it.

AMD really did a good job on this stuff lolololol.

It seems that you are a massive troll.

Overclocking is not something you must expect the same results from all the systems.

You need:

Skills
Good Equipment
Luck

If you don't have the skill you will not be going to choose/buy a good mobo/ram for overclocking. Your mindset is budget oriented that's why you pay less for some parts.

What are you trying to do is a budget overclocking. So don't expect greater compatibility between different parts. Don't forget XMP is an overclocking feature and it not a 100% success everywhere.

Also, i don't understand why you whine on a subject that you shouldn't expect specific results and why you say on the Ryzen Owners thread that you will buy Intel. Go ahead but this is not my problem and I don't want to read about it.

TLDR Don't try overclocking when you don't have the knowledge and the skill to do it. I believe that your issues are PEBKAC or you just troll.
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post #10113 of 11756
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Originally Posted by Secret Dragoon View Post

I use 3200 @ 1.4v. I don't know what you're talking about. I also bought a $230 kit of RAM and not some low quality Corsair Kits.
Check over on the K7 thread. I've posted about this a few times. BCLK OC is extremely unstable on F3. I throw error codes or straight up crash in the BIOS if I touch it.

Seeing as I bought the board for BCLK OC I am pretty frustrated.

I also sent Gigabyte an email the other day, but apparently they're off at a trade show this week.

Also I run @ 135 BCLK to get 3600 but I think I experienced degredation as I can't do it anymore

^ Just multiply clocks by 135 as Userbenchmark doesn't record the results properly. The RAM / CPU scores should "prove" that something is up.

No crashes...you must have an issue elsewhere...

k7%20degredation%20test%201_zpsdwctpum6.jpg

Works fine till i deviate from 30x...

If your not stable well obviously its going to crash in bios or in desktop...

Over 120 for 24/7 use....not realistic..
Edited by chew* - 4/26/17 at 11:17am
post #10114 of 11756
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Originally Posted by Johan45 View Post

Ram compatability is nothing new just over the last few years hasn't been much of an issue. Some systems just by their nature will never run proper with certain types of ram or certain timing tables. Some old DFI boards were great boards but wouldn't even boot with the wrong ram in them.
Now for your ram, you keep saying DOCP have you tried them just on auto? And always set defaults first in BIOS and even clear CMOS when powered down when trying something"different" with your ram. There are so many timings programmed into to your ram all it takes is for one of them to conflict with the way your motherboard sets them up and boom. She no worky.
Even on the FX platform there were some kits of G.Skill everyday looking ram that would not allow the board to boot. PERIOD.
Your ram may never be compatable that we just don't know yet.

Yes back when i was really trying to get above 2400 i would reset cmos every time, even tho it was annoying on this board (no button, had to move a jumper).

That would be pretty nuts if these kits never hit 3200, wouldnt that have to be implied in the product listing *Does not work at rated speeds with AMD platform.?

To be fair that ram was launched before way Ryzen and if you look at some kits especially DDR3 you'll see they do list on the package what they wil work on. Going forward G.Skill might start putting stickers on them saying Z270 etc.. Take these for example https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231568 In the specs this is what it says
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It seems that you are a massive troll.

Overclocking is not something you must expect the same results from all the systems.

You need:

Skills
Good Equipment
Luck

If you don't have the skill you will not be going to choose/buy a good mobo/ram for overclocking. Your mindset is budget oriented that's why you pay less for some parts.

What are you trying to do is a budget overclocking. So don't expect greater compatibility between different parts. Don't forget XMP is an overclocking feature and it not a 100% success everywhere.

Also, i don't understand why you whine on a subject that you shouldn't expect specific results and why you say on the Ryzen Owners thread that you will buy Intel. Go ahead but this is not my problem and I don't want to read about it.

TLDR Don't try overclocking when you don't have the knowledge and the skill to do it. I believe that your issues are PEBKAC or you just troll.

He buys $100 RAM, expects it to run as well as $200 RAM, says he doesn't have a disposable income, then threatens to buy intel. rolleyes.gif

Off topic but due to your avatar, I read your posts in Russ' voice. I don't do this on purpose by the way.
Edited by HexagonRabbit - 4/26/17 at 11:19am
post #10116 of 11756
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Originally Posted by chew* View Post

No crashes...you must have an issue elsewhere...

k7%20degredation%20test%201_zpsdwctpum6.jpg

Works fine till i deviate from 30x...

If your not stable well obviously its going to crash in bios or in desktop...

Over 120 for 24/7 use....not realistic..

Oh you're experiencing the same voltage discrepancy I am! Do you have any idea why there's such a huge difference between the vVcore and CPU Core Voltage at idle without Extreme LLC? What LLC are you running with?

Better question. In the above screenshot what is your BIOS Vcore setting at? What is your LLC setting? I am trying to figure out why there's such a huge difference on my board between BIOS Vcore setting and Vcore in HWiNFO.
post #10117 of 11756
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Originally Posted by Scotty99 View Post

Oh so you actually think hynix will never be able to hit 3200 on this platform.

So in other words, people with R3's R5's will never have 3200 ram, because they cant afford it.

AMD really did a good job on this stuff lolololol.

Save the lolols for after the targeted May update. The one AMD outlined weeks ago as their target for RAM improvements. Anything helpful before then has just been gravy.

Did you ever try setting RAM speeds and timings in the Advanced tab instead of OCTweaker? I saw that somebody with an Asrock board mentioned that as a possibility and you played it off without saying you'd try it. If I were in your shoes I'd be turning over every potential stone.
 
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Oh you're experiencing the same voltage discrepancy I am! Do you have any idea why there's such a huge difference between the vVcore and CPU Core Voltage at idle without Extreme LLC? What LLC are you running with?

Better question. In the above screenshot what is your BIOS Vcore setting at? What is your LLC setting? I am trying to figure out why there's such a huge difference on my board between BIOS Vcore setting and Vcore in HWiNFO.

1.4 high llc. For that screen above 1.3 high llc. Was just verifying bclk oc stable..

I already had gaming 5 so i know exactly how to tune this board...aside from bclk...which i already nailed that to smile.gif
Edited by chew* - 4/26/17 at 11:25am
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Does vcore have any bearing with able to post with 3200mhz?

I'm able to post 2933mhz by memory boot training with the FF settings

Vcore - 1.25v
Multiplier - 36
DramV - 1.35
Soc V - 1.15/1.2
LLC / Soc LLC - level 2

Dram timings 14-14-14-34

Only when I go up the final step to 3200 mhz where I get boot loops then reverts back my settings (though it would appear the settings were saved in the bios)

Tried increasing dramV to 1.36/1.4, Soc V to 1.2v, loosened timings to 20-20-20-40, 24-24-24-44 to no avail

Will increasing my vcore help?

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I use 3200 @ 1.4v. I don't know what you're talking about. I also bought a $230 kit of RAM and not some low quality Corsair Kits.
Check over on the K7 thread. I've posted about this a few times. BCLK OC is extremely unstable on F3. I throw error codes or straight up crash in the BIOS if I touch it.
I wasn't talking to you. I'm sure your RAM is fine tongue.gif
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