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Or if he encounters the same issue with a lower clock keeping the same Voltage where he is at right now -- Likely OCP or Temps. Otherwise, it's just the CPU maybe needing moar VCore. thumb.gif

My 4100 issue is simply due to VCore requirement.

Would it be wise to invest in a better cooler? I was thinking my H5 universal would be enough as it was a dual fan and an upgrade on the standby TT single fan that i had. It did shave off 5 degrees at idle but i still have problems when overclocking.
Edited by Nickyvida - 4/28/17 at 9:30pm
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Would it be wise to invest in a better cooler? I was thinking my H5 universal would be enough as it was a dual fan and an upgrade on the standby TT single fan that i had. It did shave off 5 degrees at idle but i still have problems when overclocking.

If overclocking I'd recommend always going with a better cooler. :-) If Ambient is 22c or less then a 120-360mm aio would be best. thumb.gif
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If overclocking I'd recommend always going with a better cooler. :-) If Ambient is 22c or less then a 120-360mm aio would be best. thumb.gif

Thanks. I don't think i can go the AIO route as i have used up all my fan slots on mounting extra fans. So i have no choice but to go the air cooling route.

My ambient is around 30+ and on idle, my chip currently is at 37 degrees on die.

What would be a good upgrade on my current cooler?

Thanks!
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Thanks. I don't think i can go the AIO route as i have used up all my fan slots on mounting extra fans. So i have no choice but to go the air cooling route.

My ambient is around 30+ and on idle, my chip currently is at 37 degrees on die.

What would be a good upgrade on my current cooler?

Thanks!


 This would be a good option for you, IMO: http://noctua.at/en/nh-u12s-se-am4

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Noctua/NH-U12S/6.html

 

Just add a second fan for push/pull.

 
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 This would be a good option for you, IMO: http://noctua.at/en/nh-u12s-se-am4

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Noctua/NH-U12S/6.html

Just add a second fan for push/pull.

Thank you. Would a Cryorig R1 be a useful upgrade over my current cooler? How does it stack up to the noctua?
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At the speeds he was referencing I assumed he was using a fixed voltage setting in bios with some degree of LLC. If you have your voltage settings in bios to auto with a multiplier less than 40 and core boost enabled it can really hit some high voltages - don't think I've seen 1.5 though. I always disable core boost when overclocking , if I do that and leave core voltage and LLC settings to auto it will set the core voltage to 1.352 and will boost to 1.36 under load ( prime 95 - bios 1.1)
It looks like you are bumping into multiple obstacles to me , temp for sure and possibly ocp. Adjust your power settings so core voltage never goes over 1.44 and see where your temps are at 4 ghz. Add clockspeed until you get too hot or lose stability. Those would be my suggestions, use at your own risk of course.

Well im new to overclocking so im not sure what are the terms like LLC. I left everything on auto except for the core frequency, voltages and DRAM speed and disabled core boost. Still i had the same problem.

Settings
4075 Core-Freq
Core Voltage-1.45v
DRAM SPD-2400(Have trouble booting at 2667)

Rest is on auto.


How do i adjust my power settings or OCP?

Thanks!

Will Bios or AGESA updates down the line improve overclocking?

I wouldn't mess with the ocp settings. LLC levels 1 and 2 boost v core slightly above bios setting when under load - 3 is pretty close to maintaining the bios setting - 4 and 5 allow for some v-droop in bios 1.1. ( assume you have the titanium?)

Bios 1.5 is the latest stable version and offers some increased memory compatibility over previous versions.

Your ambient is pretty high , going to be more of a challenge to cool it in light of that fact.
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Is 4.0 not enough for you?

I said you first need to verify whether it's a TEMP - ISSUE or simply a chip limit. Without doing so -- or knowing what causes the issue of not allowing you to clock further, you are left chasing a unicorn.
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Thank you. Would a Cryorig R1 be a useful upgrade over my current cooler? How does it stack up to the noctua?

 

 

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/6083/cryorig-r1-ultimate-cpu-cooler-review/index7.html

 

By adding a third fan, they brought the R1's cooling performance down another degree, so a 2.5 degree difference on a 4770k at 4.5GHz. I think both coolers are sufficient for Ryzen so it's really a matter of how much you value the potential differential in temperatures versus the size of the cooler in the case and the respective noise levels, etc.

 

I think you'd see an improvement with either cooler, though. You could even try push/pull on your H7 if you aren't already, but both of the above coolers would offer more performance with the same push/pull config.

 
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Add in cost of swapping noctua fan...its annoying soundwise.

Came in reviewers kit...need to swap it out one of these days...
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I'm probably just a little salty and mis-perceiving things. I can understand the reasoning even if I don't agree with it. It just seems weird that everything else is on the table around here....ln2, cranked up voltages, hard mods, vbios flashes, etc., etc. but flashing ram is a no no lol

I'll be waiting for the magical May unicorn updates anyway and hopefully I can get a setting for DDR boot voltage along with access to subs. If not I might give Thaiphoon a whirl. Got a couple replies from the dev and they say changing XMP doesn't affect SPD section so it shouldn't cause any bricking.

The thing is mobo bios dual bios and advanced bios support...flash backs.

Vga can be saved with another vga.

Ram there is no saving bricked = bricked.

Now imagine if i released a way to do it....gskill who i am in good standing with suddenly gets a bunch of bricked ram in rma...

I do not think they would be to happy with me.

Can it be done? Yes. Is is there more risk than vga/mobo....hell yeah..
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