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Nope. You don't need to go down to 3.6.

If -25MHz proved stable irregardless of temps, it's not temps.

Just did a run at 4050, -25mhz from 4075 at same voltage 1.44v, managed to get it to finish Cine but max temps from TCTL were 93.5 degrees. Tdie was 73.5 degrees.
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Just did a run at 4050, -25mhz from 4075 at same voltage 1.44v, managed to get it to finish Cine but max temps from TCTL were 93.5 degrees. Tdie was 73.5 degrees.

Ohh, Cinebench. tongue.gif

IMHO, you are pushing things too far. But clearly, your issue is not temp-related. I gotta say, for now, focus on stabilizing at least 3.9 and use your PC on to something that could benefit you.

If Cinebench is your thing, you should have gotten the CH6. Your 4.1CB Points on your current board can be had at 4.0 using the CH6.
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Ohh, Cinebench. tongue.gif

IMHO, you are pushing things too far. But clearly, your issue is not temp-related. I gotta say, for now, focus on stabilizing at least 3.9 and use your PC on to something that could benefit you.

If Cinebench is your thing, you should have gotten the CH6. Your 4.1CB Points on your current board can be had at 4.0 using the CH6.



Hmm.. So it means the chip is meh and not temperature related? But about the high temps, could they play a part into why i crashed? Would a better cooler help?

Perhaps i might get a new Ryzen chip(new stepping or rev) if the may update doesnt change anything.
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Is 1.45v pushin it as far as 24/7 voltage goes? Trying to maintain 4ghz, temps top out at 85 P95 Small FFT.

I hear conflicted answers on 1.4 or 1.45+
If you plan on sticking with that CPU for years, i wouldn't go above 1.4v. Worse thing that'll happen is you'll have to lower your OC once and if the chip degrades. Push away if you're going Ryzen 2 next year.
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Hmm.. So it means the chip is meh and not temperature related? But about the high temps, could they play a part into why i crashed? Would a better cooler help?

Perhaps i might get a new Ryzen chip(new stepping or rev) if the may update doesnt change anything.

Take this. We all have to stop somewhere. wink.gif
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If you plan on sticking with that CPU for years, i wouldn't go above 1.4v. Worse thing that'll happen is you'll have to lower your OC once and if the chip degrades. Push away if you're going Ryzen 2 next year.

This is exactly why I want everything under 1.4. I think officially the statement was 1.42? And it could be argued that AMD is being generous there however, if I have to replace this chip anytime soon (might as well include RAM and the motherboard in that) then I'm flirting with irritated wife syndrome" and we like not doing that.
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The problem is as mus1mus pointed out huge diminishing returns going much above 1.5v. Either your chip can do stable 4.0-41.v or it can't. I found that the jump from 3.9 to 4.0 requiring 0.1mv just too much of an investment.

Also it is errie that my 1700 and his 1700x show similar performance (Except trying for 4.1, I'm not as insane as him). Where 1.3v and 1.42v are the absolute minimum Vcore needed to achive those clocks. I would rather sit at 1.3v.

Results of 3.9 / 1.35v Vcore / Extreme LLC / 3200Mhz RAM:
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If only my voltage offset wasn't as high. I might be able to get 1.325v Stable.


This is where I'll stay until I can push for 3600 MHz
Edited by Secret Dragoon - 4/29/17 at 6:57am
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Nope. You don't need to go down to 3.6.

If -25MHz proved stable irregardless of temps, it's not temps.

Just did a run at 4050, -25mhz from 4075 at same voltage 1.44v, managed to get it to finish Cine but max temps from TCTL were 93.5 degrees. Tdie was 73.5 degrees.

Looks like that is going to be your clockspeed limit for that particular test ( what was your score btw?) . Better cooling might get you a little further but you'll bump into the cpu's limit or ocp within 100 mhz anyhow. What do you normally use your machine for?
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This is exactly why I want everything under 1.4. I think officially the statement was 1.42? And it could be argued that AMD is being generous there however, if I have to replace this chip anytime soon (might as well include RAM and the motherboard in that) then I'm flirting with irritated wife syndrome" and we like not doing that.
Don't need to replace the board and RAM with Ryzen 2.
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I think i've found my sweet spot.
Except for one thing.
This is as high as I can go and remain stable under 1.4 which is what I want.
However my scores are all over the place. I welcome anyone's advice or comments.
Validation http://valid.x86.fr/yh7ppb







Im at 1.38 voltage no LLC 3965 mhz, you can push your chip a little more and be safe. As long as your under 1.41 it is a good 24/7 setup. Whats your LLC at? Push your chip for 4 GHZ id say its better than my chip. thumb.gif
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