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post #10791 of 11744
@chew, I am not expecting 50C temps from a custom loop. What I DO expect is to know what my TRUE cpu's temperature is. I also expect to not have my cpu throttle at 70C/90C when the cpu is NOT really that hot because I can just change sense skew to enable and the temp readings drop! Did they really drop, of course not, I changed noting else, the cpu, soc, all volts and clockspeeds are the same. Or you change PLL at all and you get 20 degrees too hot or to cold readings. All I ask for is if I have PLL at stock, everything at stocks settings (other than cpu, soc, and dram volts), what do I do to get THE REAL ACTUALY CPU TEMPERATURE on an 1800X running at 3.9ghz? DO I enable or disable sense skew? Just tell me what I need to set to get accurate cpu temperatures and then I will be happy and can adjust my cooling situation if needed. But I sure as hell don't need my mobo or cpu throttling because it THINKS it is at 70/90C when it is really at 60/80C.
post #10792 of 11744
Hah i knew something was goofy with CPU-z.
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@hotstocks

I am curious, what exactly do you mean when you refer to the cpu is "throttling"? A simple down clock, or a shut down because of heat?
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You can open cpu-z and run intel burn test and when your temp gets over 70/90C depending which you believe, you can see cpu-z drop from 3950mhz to 3850mhz for example. But yes if you get over 100C your cpu will just shut off the system. The problem is I don't know what temp my cpu truly is, yet it is throttling depending on if I have sense skew enabled or disabled, and it shouldn't matter. The mobo/cpu should know THE REAL CPU temperature and only throttle or shut down if it goes over that temperature,not some random number temperature that the bios is reading based on some random goofy setting. I have owned over 30 cpus and have always known the exact cpu temperature, this cpu is a joke, should it really take me 2 months and reading 1000 posts to still be guessing what my cpu temperature is?
post #10795 of 11744
I feel your pain, I am in the same situation. I've tried to follow this thread and the one for overclocking, but because of my passive cpu cooler (with some fans moving air), I find myself testing at the limit of what the cpu temps allow and I have no clue how to work with this.
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The problem is I don't know what temp my cpu truly is

HWInfo CPU (tdie)...that's the one you need. Forget anything else for now. I"ve gone over 83 degree while stressing, if that was truly 103 the machine would crash, but it didn't.
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yes i did, my problem was down to undersized hard drives and lack of 6gb/s drive as mine were 3gb/s, they failed to work.
it could also be instabilty, but if the cpu is passing tests, the ram and cpu are working.
there is a compatiblity list for hard drive with the msi carbon, no ssd smaller than 128gb and no 3gb/s drives and most hard drives are 500gb or larger.
I had to scrap 4 drives because of it, not happy, till I found out what it was, I was thinking MSI stands for Massive Sata Instability.smile.gif

My motherboard is Asus CH6 and I am using m2 drive 960 evo ssd so speed isn't issue. Even though pc hangs a little bit but it still pass all the tests i run. I did a little bit searching about this issue on google and found out AMD acknowledge this problem , it will be fixed in the next microcode they push for May.
post #10798 of 11744
are you using blck or bus overclocking please?
people have warned that using bus will change there pci-e speed and my have an effect of pci-e m2 drives, so just play with multiplier if you were using the bus.
i want proof of this as pci-e 3 slots are active and change there speed when working and idle.
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are you using blck or bus overclocking please?
people have warned that using bus will change there pci-e speed and my have an effect of pci-e m2 drives, so just play with multiplier if you were using the bus.
i want proof of this as pci-e 3 slots are active and change there speed when working and idle.

Bus overclocking . Running 1700 at 4ghz 1.44v , 2666mhz Ram, temp under prime95 is 78C.
post #10800 of 11744
yer, change to multiplier overclocking. it should achive the same clock with multiplier.
    
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