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Right, laws of physics...

I'm sure you could've magically prevented a single D5 and serial blocks from continuously filling my radiator with air rolleyes.gif

I had actually done a lot of research and talked to alphacool and EK about it before upgrading to dual D5's, the pump requirements scale directly with the size of radiator/s you're using, if the flow rate is not high enough for the radiator the fluid will simply not flow correctly through it due to tensile and surface friction.
   
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post #17082 of 18017
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Lots of useful information again, thnx a lot man smile.gif

I am in contact with The Stilt now and hopefully we can find something that is causing this behavior.

Who is Mumak and can you link his thread plz?

Much obliged.

NP smile.gif .

Martin Malik author of HWiNFO is OCN user Mumak smile.gif . His support thread for app on OCN is here smile.gif and here is his own web forum.

Glad The Stilt is aiding you smile.gif . I have previously discussed my setup in C6H thread, but as that thread can be a mare to search feel free to drop a PM if you need smile.gif . My apologies in advance if I do not reply ASAP as sometimes can be waylaid with other things redface.gif .

Aim for as clean an OS as you can.

Choice pick apps you use and don't install what you don't need. Aim for least 'bloatware' and things running at startup, etc. If I even think I'm going to try xyz app I image drive and then try, if of no use I revert to image prior install. As you're aware sometimes uninstalls leave things behind. Then also registry can become a mess. Macrium Reflect is FOC, has worked very well for my uses. You can also load backups as a 'virtual drive' and explorer easily.

I always aim to use latest driver from a manufacturer of item than say use an Asus or x vendor driver. For example I use a Gigabyte WiFi card, it has Intel AC 7260, I always use driver from Intel site, AMD Chipset driver from AMD, etc, etc.

Some may prefer OC SW in OS, I don't. I just see it as something else to go 'whoops' and have bugs, etc. RyzenMaster I tried once at launch, saw it offered nothing I needed. AiSuite I have never ever used on Intel board, let alone the AMD boards I've used. I'd stick to UEFI settings changes to gain CPU/RAM/Fan setup as you need.

Look forward to reading either all is well or a solution found smile.gif . I think Sicness conveyed it best in a PM when we discussed the Fury issue on C6H, taking the time to work with xyz vendor will not only help you but others smile.gif . So be a 'cog' in the process wink.gif .
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post #17083 of 18017
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I'm sure you could've magically prevented a single D5 and serial blocks from continuously filling my radiator with air rolleyes.gif

I had actually done a lot of research and talked to alphacool and EK about it before upgrading to dual D5's, the pump requirements scale directly with the size of radiator/s you're using, if the flow rate is not high enough for the radiator the fluid will simply not flow correctly through it due to tensile and surface friction.

If you are filling a radiator with air during operation, you have problems outside of flow rate.
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post #17084 of 18017
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If you are filling a radiator with air during operation, you have problems outside of flow rate.

I tend to agree. That's a leak imo.
    
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NP smile.gif .

Martin Malik author of HWiNFO is OCN user Mumak smile.gif . His support thread for app on OCN is here smile.gif and here is his own web forum.

Glad The Stilt is aiding you smile.gif . I have previously discussed my setup in C6H thread, but as that thread can be a mare to search feel free to drop a PM if you need smile.gif . My apologies in advance if I do not reply ASAP as sometimes can be waylaid with other things redface.gif .

Aim for as clean an OS as you can.

Choice pick apps you use and don't install what you don't need. Aim for least 'bloatware' and things running at startup, etc. If I even think I'm going to try xyz app I image drive and then try, if of no use I revert to image prior install. As you're aware sometimes uninstalls leave things behind. Then also registry can become a mess. Macrium Reflect is FOC, has worked very well for my uses. You can also load backups as a 'virtual drive' and explorer easily.

I always aim to use latest driver from a manufacturer of item than say use an Asus or x vendor driver. For example I use a Gigabyte WiFi card, it has Intel AC 7260, I always use driver from Intel site, AMD Chipset driver from AMD, etc, etc.

Some may prefer OC SW in OS, I don't. I just see it as something else to go 'whoops' and have bugs, etc. RyzenMaster I tried once at launch, saw it offered nothing I needed. AiSuite I have never ever used on Intel board, let alone the AMD boards I've used. I'd stick to UEFI settings changes to gain CPU/RAM/Fan setup as you need.

Look forward to reading either all is well or a solution found smile.gif . I think Sicness conveyed it best in a PM when we discussed the Fury issue on C6H, taking the time to work with xyz vendor will not only help you but others smile.gif . So be a 'cog' in the process wink.gif .

Thnx for your kind word man, much obliged.

The Stilt is very very knowledgeable and is helping me with this rather strange issue i have to wish i am very grateful for.

The problem on the other hand still persists and i think something is broken on or in my motherboard man... It happens in BIOS too and i had to completely shut down my PC and disconnect the PC from the power in order to reset the EC sensor but than it did it again after i reboot.

I made an video on what happens: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gUIhek6B-k

I have my fans connected to my Fan controller again as the motherboard headers are utterly useless now... I really feel like breaking this board in half right now, but that doesn't solve it but it would sure feel good at this point lol.

Instead i am determined to trace the problem because i NEED to know what the heck is going on in my system, even The Stilt cannot replicate my issue so the only thing i can think of is that my board is gone bad some way..
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Just got my 1700 up and running at 4115mhz 1.373v ^^ Super happy so far, absolute streaming monster biggrin.gif
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I'm sure you could've magically prevented a single D5 and serial blocks from continuously filling my radiator with air rolleyes.gif

I had actually done a lot of research and talked to alphacool and EK about it before upgrading to dual D5's, the pump requirements scale directly with the size of radiator/s you're using, if the flow rate is not high enough for the radiator the fluid will simply not flow correctly through it due to tensile and surface friction.

If you are filling a radiator with air during operation, you have problems outside of flow rate.

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If you are filling a radiator with air during operation, you have problems outside of flow rate.

I tend to agree. That's a leak imo.

No, no, no.

He already said, laws of physics.

Nothing to see here. I already alluded to it but again his response was quite clear.

But yea you are right, when filled properly the air pockets will go away on their own. If you have trouble you can always face the rad to assist you. If you are continually collecting new air, fix your problem.
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I use dual pumps to mitigate hose collapse from suction, dual pumps at opposite ends of loop keep hoses pressurized. of course this is an EPMD/Norprene issue as it is usually softer than your typical hose.

anti kink coils work to mitigate this as well if you get the hard plastic type.

In a norprene or EPMD application there is absolutely no evaporation......however I have run into evaporation at an alarming rate.

I determined the culprit was those fancy convenient dual vga connectors as the problem manifested after installing those vs hose and barb.....if you have rapid evap you are sucking air basically is what I am saying....or if your a reservoir type guy.....your lid on your res sucks....
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Well guys due to medical issues I've done a horrible disservice to the master race community, but that soon is going to change.

I have all my parts, 1800x (preorder cpu) and CH6 (preorder), I seeing issues about when parts were bought and I hope the preorder parts are OK because it's way past warranty. Got my Vega 64 about two weeks ago and I'm going with a dual pump, dual 480x60mm rad, dual monsoon res', and primochill black chrome hard line petg loops in a gutted out phanteks primo with full glass side panel from Bill at MNPCTECH. If you look at my pics you'll see the I7, 980ti build in the Enthoo Luxe modded and a full glass side panel but the Primo is MUCH BIGGER. Corsair 1200 AXI. The awesome thing is that I have some very good friends have DONATED most of the parts, all except the fittings pretty much. I'd say about 3 plus grand worth. Gonna be EPIC. Proud to be going back to an ALL AMD system. I do think that the eight core or 10 core from Intel is better, but not that $$$$ much better. Might sell the Intel I7 and 980ti build once I get this system built. If you're interested you can see pics in my profile and can message me for anything else. The 980ti is the Gigabyte Xtreme that was arguably the best 980ti made. ALL EK hardware, 360 EK and HL 280 rads. 7 EK Vardars which most have never even turned on except early testing and basically been used as a internet cruiser, gaming and parkinsons don't really mix but I've tried a little. PSU is a Seasonic 1050 Snow Silent....... thumb.gif No expense spared. Awesome LEDs which I prefer..... off.

When I got the cpu/mb I did a box test with an air cooler and man it took me a while to get it to post, boot loop, boot loop. But FINALLY got it to take an unofficial BIOS and it did boot. Didn't even try to get the ram OC'd to rater 3000mhz, Gskill 8x2. Got windows loaded and drivers installed and that was good enough for then. Put it back in the box and haven't taken it out since. I know, I'm scum. But I suffer from a degenerative spine disease and parkinsons so every day is just a challenge and I'll leave it there. But I have some help now and it's time to build and I hope the bugs have been worked out.

Basically the reason for the post other than to relieve myself of some shame is just to ask is there anything specific I should test or a list of things I should test before putting water to it and have it out on the box. I will post pics of the build, we are starting the plexi and led work tomorrow, my help has two weeks of vacation and it will get done. Plan on one loop for cpu and one loop for Vega, 480mm each. Already boiled the rads back when I got the cpu/mb working and have one res build (man those monsoons are some work. So if there is anything that you guys can think of that I need to check on the cpu/mb before install please let me know. I'm not a novice, just a novice to Ryzen. Not really worried about the ram, I will buy ram that will work, was thinking of 32gb at 3200mhz at 14 or 16 CL. I HOPE that it will be on the QVL. But if you've got some ram that worked out of the box 4x8 please let me know. Thank you for reading my post and looking forward to thanking you guys many more times to get this build good and stable. Lord please let it be stable. I'm gonna run the pipe so that ram is ease to add/remove. hehe

Here's a pic of the old 6700k/980ti build that I might sell. (well you can see on here when it was built like last march.)

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Just got my 1700 up and running at 4115mhz 1.373v ^^ Super happy so far, absolute streaming monster biggrin.gif

On Air. Could possibly go ^ ^ with Water.
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