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All the temp reading apps I've used so far, including ryzen master, say my 1700 is either 15 or 19 degrees on load lol

I've not found one that looks right yet.

Thats down to the bios, they are slowly changing offsets, problem is it might not be reading your 1700 right (which doesnt need an offset like the x editions) would be my only guess. HWinfo64 might not be reading it right as well.
    
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Hmm i just left everythinng stock as it is in bios as i dont know how to overclock.

what tool is the most accurate so far to monitor temps?

Thanks

HWinfo64 can read temps as Tctl. Just remember that the numbers could be 20c higher on a 1700X/1800X than what they actually are.

Also, at stock with XFR, volts can actually hit 1.5v.
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Thats down to the bios, they are slowly changing offsets, problem is it might not be reading your 1700 right (which doesnt need an offset like the x editions) would be my only guess. HWinfo64 might not be reading it right as well.

That makes sense, it's stock too so 40 degrees on a short full load might be right. Not really stressed it yet. Just cinebench and firestrike.

All I've done so far was set memory to 3200 cas 14 which completely failed. Just caused a complete post failure. I forgot to alter the SOC voltage, so that's not going to help. Kept it on auto.

Edit: I've got g.skill samsung b-die
post #4714 of 11717
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Originally Posted by SpecChum View Post

All the temp reading apps I've used so far, including ryzen master, say my 1700 is either 15 or 19 degrees on load lol

I've not found one that looks right yet.
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Originally Posted by lightofhonor View Post

HWinfo64 can read temps as Tctl. Just remember that the numbers could be 20c higher on a 1700X/1800X than what they actually are.

Also, at stock with XFR, volts can actually hit 1.5v.

ah i see.. so that is auto overclocking aka XFR thats responsible for the voltages?

im a newbie on overclocking, havent overclocked before and no inkling on how to.

How do i oc?
thanks!
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ah i see.. so that is auto overclocking aka XFR thats responsible for the voltages?

im a newbie on overclocking, havent overclocked before and no inkling on how to.

How do i oc?
thanks!

Yep. You can overclock using Ryzen Master if you want (find it on Google), but most people use the BIOS and just change the multiplier and the voltages.

If you are unsure just use Ryzen Master.
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im a newbie on overclocking, havent overclocked before and no inkling on how to.

How do i oc?
thanks!

Short answer: Increase the multiplier and voltage offset in the BIOS and then run some stability tests.

Long answer: Make some coffee, get out your reading glasses and open up some google search tabs and overclock.net tabs in your browser and read lots of guides and ask lots of questions. Make sure you have the right hardware (good PSU, mobo, cooling, etc.) Ask more questions and do some more reading. Now try the short answer.
post #4717 of 11717
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@gupsterg

Are you sure your instability isn't just from SOC Voltage being too low? Seems weird that a higher voltage would cause instability if your thermals are good. I ask because I notice you failed sooner with it set to 0.925 as opposed to auto. Also in AMD's own example for overclocking the memory they set SOC voltage to 1.2 like it's nothing for 2666 speed. I imagine AMD if anything is being conservative with their voltage numbers.

https://www.amd.com/system/files/2017-03/AMD-Ryzen-Processor-and-AMD-Ryzen-Master-Overclocking-Users-Guide.pdf

Check page 25.

See this post, then you've seen the next post any how.

Yep seen the guide mate wink.gif . I like to keep as tight as possible an increase and know I need it wink.gif . Will keep tweaking and report back.
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ah i see.. so that is auto overclocking aka XFR thats responsible for the voltages?

im a newbie on overclocking, havent overclocked before and no inkling on how to.

How do i oc?
thanks!

what motherboard are you using?
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Originally Posted by 92blueludesi View Post

what motherboard are you using?

msi x370 carbon with 1800x
post #4720 of 11717
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Originally Posted by SuperZan View Post

That's what my testing confirmed, at least for my chip. By 3.9GHz my chip wants 1.37v or so, and by 3.95 we're nearing 1.4v territory. I may push forward a bit more as we learn more about these chips, but I'm quite pleased with performance right now.

Hmm. I can almost do 4.0 GHz with 1.35v with this 1800x. It's stable in non-AVX workloads. It needs a little more for AVX. I set LLC Level 1 (1.4v @ full load) and that did the trick, but I think that was overboard. The heat really comes in when volts go above 1.35v.

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Bro from you got ASRock X370 Taichi

Eh? Yeah I got one, off eBay. Very rare board right now. It's um, a bit buggy though. Needs moar updates. Like: no UEFI profiles. At all.

And if I crash I have to reset the UEFI completely, blah.

And the integrated wifi NIC is terrible (only connects at 802.11b speeds)

And um hmm, all UEFI-based OC causes a reboot loop. I have to set voltages in UEFI and then tweak clockspeeds for CPU + memory using Ryzen Master. Works fine though.

Oh and sometimes my NVMe m.2 drive just vanishes after a crash, I have to reset UEFI again to get it to reappear.

Otherwise it's nice. Rock solid so far, and it'll do DDR4-3200 all day long . . .
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Originally Posted by savagebunny View Post

Welp, gamble paid off (regarding RAM), picked up a G.Skill kit, Samsung B-die. I'm a happy man. Working on getting the system together atm.

Good show! B-die should be good for DDR4-3200 14-14-14-32 if you can get your board to POST with that speed.
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I have a doubt about the choice of the mobo, are torn between Gigabyte X370 gaming 5 or k7, you can adjust the BCLK makes a difference?

bclk OC seems buggy as hell on every board that supports it. I may try again later with SATA set to IDE mode, or I may pull my SATA devices entirely and stick with the NVMe drive to see if I can get it to boot. From my FM2+ days I remember PCIe devices staying stable at bclk up to about 117 MHz. I might be able to get this NVMe drive to play ball.
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Dark magic, That's all I got for 3800 RAM atm

It's bclk OC + DDR4-3200 setting of 118-119 or so. I would guess?
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Originally Posted by navjack27 View Post

whats the current way most people are doing their overclocks? ya'll just picking a preset mhz and then setting ur voltage manually/offset? leave it on auto and then change the pstates? just curious

My system is wonky, but it's the only thing that works with 1.55 beta UEFI on the X370 Taichi:

Set all volts in UEFI
Set clocks in Ryzen Master

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Originally Posted by keikei View Post

What aftermarket cpu coolers are you guys using for 1700X/1800X? I cant seem to find any for AM4.

Noctua NH-D15S + 2x NF-A14 IndustrialPPC 3000 RPM + stock fan
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Originally Posted by skullbringer View Post

You know how I posted a few days ago that my Asus C6H got bricked and that I had to return in.

Well, I instead got a Gigabyte AX370-Gaming K7 and THE EXACT SAME THING HAPPENED AGAIN, ***?!

I have heard of the K5 burning itself out. Might be the weak PWM. K7 seems to have the same power delivery so . . . anyway chew* killed his K5, so you are in good company.
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Originally Posted by Hueristic View Post

Who would have guessed that 1700 was the way to go and Asrock too?

ASRock X370 Taichi was my #2 pick, C6H was my #1. I'd have a C6H right now if Amazon hadn't screwed me over.

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Originally Posted by lightofhonor View Post

Yep. You can overclock using Ryzen Master if you want (find it on Google), but most people use the BIOS and just change the multiplier and the voltages.

If you are unsure just use Ryzen Master.

Or if you are in my boat, it is the only way.
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