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See this post, then you've seen the next post any how.

Yep seen the guide mate wink.gif . I like to keep as tight as possible an increase and know I need it wink.gif . Will keep tweaking and report back.

I saw that post and that's part of the reason I said that. It seemed like you got it in your head that higher SOC voltage = bad because of one failed attempt with SOC @ 1.05V but maybe that just sent you on the wrong path.

EDIT: It might be worth setting SOC voltage to 1.15-1.2 or something just to see if that cures your instability, and if it does, start downvolting from there (or up-volting from 1.05)

Anyhow keep the tweaking and reporting coming biggrin.gif I am soaking it all in for when my chip arrives.
Edited by bardacuda - 3/18/17 at 7:30pm
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@bluej511

For me High Performance power plan with Core Parking off (ie 100%) on Win 7 Pro x64 gives best performance on 3DM FS, here are 3 runs of each.

Balanced Core Parking default 10% (ie enabled).

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/12047423/fs/12047468/fs/12047496

Balanced Core Parking 50% (ie disabledish)

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/12047629/fs/12047655/fs/12047686

High Performance Core Parking 100% (ie disabled)

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/12047769/fs/12047794/fs/12047824

In my sig is link to thread, OP in section Power Plan editing in Windows are regedits to enable Core Parking editable value in Power Plan for Win 7 / 10, that was what was used for above tests. Min state was set as 5% for all profiles so down volting /clocking occurs at idle.
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I saw that post and that's part of the reason I said that. It seemed like you got it in your head that higher SOC voltage = bad because of one failed attempt with SOC @ 1.05V but maybe that just sent you on the wrong path.

It might be worth setting SOC voltage to 1.15-1.2 or something just to see if that cures your instability, and if it does, start downvolting from there (or up-volting from 1.05)

1.05V wasn't one failed event, I had 2, post 4570 within 1st spoiler both had 1.05V SOC wink.gif .
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f@h 16/03/17 evening, (3.8GHz OC 2400MHz VCORE +112.5mV (~1.330V on DMM) SOC: [AUTO]).





f@h 17/03/17 morning (3.8GHz OC 2400MHz VCORE +112.5mV (~1.330V on DMM) SOC: [AUTO]).



Next stage
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Due to the errors on L0 cache I went and lowered SOC to 0.950V, upped VCORE to +118.75mV. As thought perhaps CPU doesn't like high SOC and need some more VCORE. Through out the day no issues on f@h. Tested with Y-Cruncher as shown above screenies.

So through out the day ~8hrs of f@h error free, I then ran Y-Cruncher for 2.5hrs on same settings and error free wink.gif . The screenie of Y-Cruncher was 1st one in post wink.gif . Then you see at the end of post those same setting failed in f@h.

Going 0.925V has passed f@h today.



But failed Y-Cruncher.
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@bluej511

For me High Performance power plan with Core Parking off (ie 100%) on Win 7 Pro x64 gives best performance on 3DM FS, here are 3 runs of each.

Balanced Core Parking default 10% (ie enabled).

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/12047423/fs/12047468/fs/12047496

Balanced Core Parking 50% (ie disabledish)

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/12047629/fs/12047655/fs/12047686

High Performance Core Parking 100% (ie disabled)

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/12047769/fs/12047794/fs/12047824

Nice results, all 3 look ridiculously close to each other so thats good. Seems like with ryzen and w10 its a core parking issue. Pretty much just keep it on balanced performance (and/or tweak core parking to 50%) and seems to work really well. The scores on w10 and w7 for combined score look about the same.
    
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So higher SOC = bad for F@H but good for Y-cruncher, and lower SOC = good for F@H and bad for Y-cruncher? Hahaha that is so weird!
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So higher SOC = bad for F@H but good for Y-cruncher, and lower SOC = good for F@H and bad for Y-cruncher? Hahaha that is so weird!

Yes wink.gif , I'm chasing an optimal spot so all work good wink.gif .

For example the i5 in my sig I nailed 8hrs x264 / 4hrs RB and 17hrs f@h on setup of OC. For whole year I did not touch profile smile.gif . I had 4x Hawaii cards and 11 Fiji cards which I then OC'd and tested ROM mods, you can imagine the amount of hours I nailed on that rig wink.gif .
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Nice results, all 3 look ridiculously close to each other so thats good. Seems like with ryzen and w10 its a core parking issue. Pretty much just keep it on balanced performance (and/or tweak core parking to 50%) and seems to work really well. The scores on w10 and w7 for combined score look about the same.

3 runs each pretty much show run to run variance. There is no doubt IMO High performance has best overall score wink.gif .

Balanced 10%/50% is practically the same. I will nail balanced 100% and high performance 10% / 50% tomorrow wink.gif .
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Yes wink.gif , I'm chasing an optimal spot so all work good wink.gif .

For example the i5 in my sig I nailed 8hrs x264 / 4hrs RB and 17hrs f@h on setup of OC. For whole year I did not touch profile smile.gif . I had 4x Hawaii cards and 11 Fiji cards which I then OC'd and tested ROM mods, you can imagine the amount of hours I nailed on that rig wink.gif .
3 runs each pretty much show run to run variance. There is no doubt IMO High performance has best overall score wink.gif .

Balanced 10%/50% is practically the same. I will nail balanced 100% and high performance 10% / 50% tomorrow wink.gif .
Note that this behavior may not be representative of those of us with Windows 10, as the native scheduling is different in Windows 10. It has been shown that Windows 7 performance with Ryzen is better than Windows 10, due to Windows 10's scheduler being stupid.

In other words, if you have Windows 10 ... take gupsterg's results with a hefty pinch of salt.
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@bluej511

For me High Performance power plan with Core Parking off (ie 100%) on Win 7 Pro x64 gives best performance on 3DM FS, here are 3 runs of each.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Balanced Core Parking default 10% (ie enabled).

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/12047423/fs/12047468/fs/12047496

Balanced Core Parking 50% (ie disabledish)

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/12047629/fs/12047655/fs/12047686

High Performance Core Parking 100% (ie disabled)

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/12047769/fs/12047794/fs/12047824

In my sig is link to thread, OP in section Power Plan editing in Windows are regedits to enable Core Parking editable value in Power Plan for Win 7 / 10, that was what was used for above tests. Min state was set as 5% for all profiles so down volting /clocking occurs at idle.

Note that this behavior may not be representative of those of us with Windows 10, as the native scheduling is different in Windows 10. It has been shown that Windows 7 performance with Ryzen is better than Windows 10, due to Windows 10's scheduler being stupid.

In other words, if you have Windows 10 ... take gupsterg's results with a hefty pinch of salt.

Why would someone need "hefty pinch of salt" thinking.gif , it clearly states Win 7 Pro is being used, did I say this is what Win 10 users should use? thinking.gif

My post was to show what is working best for me wink.gif and someone who maybe on Win 7 will use info wink.gif . I have helped about 3+ Ryzen owners via my PM box to sort an ISO to install Win 7 on Ryzen as they wanted to be on it in the past few days.
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cpu-z isn't accurate atm. mine shows 1.55v which is not even close to what I set in the bios

Same here. My latest version of CPU-Z is stuck at 1.55, but an older copy and Ryzen Master are showing the actual values. Seems to be stuck at 1.55v no matter what I do...
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Is anybody able to verify something for me?

Check y-cruncher and do only the HNT test, It's failing for me even on stock settings which doesn't make sense to me.

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