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It's one thing to push things, and another for pushing things blindly without understanding the limits of the platform.

Basically lol, RMA is great and all but xD I don't have a super back up system if my Ryzen system croaks. I knew for weeks now that basically gonna hunker down and keep a nice low ram clock. Yes faster stuff will come soon, but I'll let other people guinea pig or at least some note from Gigabyte saying hey this Bios fixes like... all the ram issues 200%.

I personally don't want to wait 2 weeks for another motherboard
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Basically lol, RMA is great and all but xD I don't have a super back up system if my Ryzen system croaks. I knew for weeks now that basically gonna hunker down and keep a nice low ram clock. Yes faster stuff will come soon, but I'll let other people guinea pig or at least some note from Gigabyte saying hey this Bios fixes like... all the ram issues 200%.

I personally don't want to wait 2 weeks for another motherboard

2 weeks is probably even an under statement with the amount of backed up orders everyone has for am4 boards lol. And considering Ryzen 5 is just around the corner, prepare to wait even longer.
    
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It's one thing to push things, and another for pushing things blindly without understanding the limits of the platform.

you mean like running 1.5V to get 4.2 GHz? lol
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I'm confused....is a high RAM clock actually dangerous for your motherboard's components somehow?
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I'm confused....is a high RAM clock actually dangerous for your motherboard's components somehow?

Nope, but high voltage might be needed to acquire high mem OC. That is what the dangerous part. :-)
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But if the kit itself is rated for high clocks...wouldn't it only need its stock voltage, which itself should be some standard, safe, motherboard-friendly number like 1.35?
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Ok I don't know but My Chip needs lots of voltage to be stable it seems. Might be the cheaper motherboard, but I can practically say it's stable with this:



I was trying higher clocks and higher voltages but I was having various issues now and then. For some reason I was thinking 1.450volts was fine. Now I realized it was 1.35V that was max recommended.

38.00 cpu multi
26.66 mem multi (XMP)
16.18.18.18.35

Dynamic Vcore: +0.156 V (tested +0.150 but froze after a while)
SOC voltage: AUTO = 0.900 V
Memory voltage: AUTO = 1.212 V

c-states: disabled
core boost: disabled
CnQ: enabled
    
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But if the kit itself is rated for high clocks...wouldn't it only need its stock voltage, which itself should be some standard, safe, motherboard-friendly number like 1.35?

afaik the "bricking" is caused by increased ref clock, which is needed to get memory clocks higher than 3200 MHz.

this is likely to be fixed with uefi updates, but for the moment anything than 100 ref clock is considered "dangerous".
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@Nighthog

1.35 is the recommended safe voltage for longevity coming from AMD (who probably don't want to deal with RMAs) according to Tom's Hardware (couldn't find the original statement from AMD) so that's probably being pretty conservative. Even at stock with turbo modes kicking in I think it goes higher, so they are probably just trying to discourage people from running, say, 1.45 24/7 but I would imagine it's fine for a little short-term benching with proper cooling.

EDIT: Damn those VRM temps tho...I think your motherboard wants that wraith cooler back rolleyes.gif Thanks for being a B350 overclocking guinea pig. I was considering going that route but decided against it because of your AM4 VRM thread.
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afaik the "bricking" is caused by increased ref clock, which is needed to get memory clocks higher than 3200 MHz.

this is likely to be fixed with uefi updates, but for the moment anything than 100 ref clock is considered "dangerous".

But can't you just clear the CMOS or reflash with USB if you need to? I'm still on AM3 so I'm a little out of the loop on this stuff. Didn't realize just playing with clocks and ratios could be bad for hardware when you're not touching voltages.
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afaik the "bricking" is caused by increased ref clock, which is needed to get memory clocks higher than 3200 MHz.

this is likely to be fixed with uefi updates, but for the moment anything than 100 ref clock is considered "dangerous".

But wasn't the issue with the bricked Asus C6H too high SoC voltage? I think I read you used high SoC on your clocks?
    
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