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Here are mine.


That's weird, my CB score is higher with a 1700 at 3.9. I got 1686.
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Basically this syndrome xD as per usual https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/606iyn/ryzen_reviewers_be_like/
Ryzen benchmarks are hardly valid at the moment across the board alot of tweaking needs to be done. Hopefully when R5 releases it'll be in better light for day 1 launch.

What drives me nuts too is how uninformed alot of the reviewers are not understanding the memory speed correlations to performance, the CCX's, or the differences between a 1700 and 1800x
32 Core Naples is confirmed, but this 16 core is different its less Data centery, and more for a Prosumer or Work space. So I'm expecting 16 core 3ghz, basically 2 1700's or something jammed inside a die together.

Its 140w TDP as I've heard so.

Lol the Game A and B thing made me laugh, it is so true, see it on all the reviews. I've been cringing at some of these top YouTube reviewers, no proper bios settings, some not installing the Crimson ReLive Drivers and often times it feels like everything they say is being read of a script most likely written by Intel or nVidia. Don't get me wrong I use both Intel and nVidia as well, but i'm fully aware of their dick moves since 2003 to bully AMD. Finally glad the AMD is getting back in the game, they were wise to milk the AM3 platform and focus on ZEN development instead, compared to the others just releasing modded versions of their older hardware. AMD has always innovated, that's why I love them.
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Its 140w TDP as I've heard so. If that has overclocking as well, and you can quell that heat, 4ghz 16 core CPU, hell yes?

What's the source of all this rumored 16 core zen chip?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/antonyleather/2017/03/19/monster-amd-ryzen-16-core-cpu-could-be-on-the-way-1000-cheaper-and-faster-than-intel/#12aa44713d62

Far as I know, I might be wrong on it being confirmed looking deeper but xD can dream right? Its Certainly a chip and Chipset that could exist. if 8 cores weren't enough for prosumers.

I MEAN WE DO need a 40+ lane chipset for Quadfire Vega's common right?
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1800x as far as we've seen is just a extreme overclocker chip with no merits over a 1700 @ 4.0, The R7 series is not aimed to take on 7700k, where the 6900k loses out just as much in many scenarios to the 7700k's clocks. And it rarely loses by much, and all this is pre-optimization, so benchmarks are a mute point when saying "few" percent is a win/loss.

I'm a consumer, I don't stream, I get annoyed by having my processor limit me from multitasking, and watching 7700k's stutter and max out 100% on all Cores in some extreme situations in games is not good. I'd rather have a stable 8 core that can balance the load of the system. 7700k sounds like something for a console pleb that only cares about gaming, shutting off 100% of all other programs and maximising their gaming gains.

R5's priced way way way lower then R7's are just as Fit to go up against 7700k, and absolutely blow it out of the water price/performance. 1600 6 core particularly

I think not many game developers would do optimization or even test with Ryzen since intel has 80% of the cpu market. There is not much optimization can do too, that game Ashe has developed for years and coop with AMD, a lot has big benefit by number of cores, reviews still show 7700k does better job.

Anyone who thinks Ashes is a valid benchmark should go take a hike its terribly optimized across the board and is Random. Its not a valid test. Period. There can be +- 10-15% differences EASILY per test depending on how the dice roll.
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Not much of a difference there. I had a score of 1700 on a earlier post. Could have something to do with other programs running in the background as well.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/antonyleather/2017/03/19/monster-amd-ryzen-16-core-cpu-could-be-on-the-way-1000-cheaper-and-faster-than-intel/#12aa44713d62

Far as I know, I might be wrong on it being confirmed looking deeper but xD can dream right? Its Certainly a chip and Chipset that could exist. if 8 cores weren't enough for prosumers.

I MEAN WE DO need a 40+ lane chipset for Quadfire Vega's common right?

That's...actually an interesting point. Although multi-GPU setups have slowly been dying out, excluding benchmarking leaderboards of course. I still wish it were possible for GPU dies to be linked together in some way to create a single larger GPU.

Will be very interesting though if AMD does come with some kind of HEDT version of zen. biggrin.gif
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/antonyleather/2017/03/19/monster-amd-ryzen-16-core-cpu-could-be-on-the-way-1000-cheaper-and-faster-than-intel/#12aa44713d62

Far as I know, I might be wrong on it being confirmed looking deeper but xD can dream right? Its Certainly a chip and Chipset that could exist. if 8 cores weren't enough for prosumers.

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Anyone who thinks Ashes is a valid benchmark should go take a hike its terribly optimized across the board and is Random. Its not a valid test. Period. There can be +- 10-15% differences EASILY per test depending on how the dice roll.

The 16, 32, 48 core cpu's from what I remember reading will be using some stacking technology, where is stacks the cores on top of each other, there was also mention of server mobos with a longer CPU slot, such as two cpu's next to each other in one. I am uncertain of it, as this was from the article from four years ago and ZEN was just starting. We may only see something like this another 2 years from now.
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Not much of a difference there. I had a score of 1700 on a earlier post. Could have something to do with other programs running in the background as well.

Memory speed has a decent boost on Cinebench15 scores. Also you can get a decent boost by adjusting the process priority to realtime, since it wont even attempt to visually render the multicore scene until its complete. That may seem a little like cheating but HWBOT rules allow it, so you might as well give yourself every edge.
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The 16, 32, 48 core cpu's from what I remember reading will be using some stacking technology, where is stacks the cores on top of each other, there was also mention of server mobos with a longer CPU slot, such as two cpu's next to each other in one. I am uncertain of it, as this was from the article from four years ago and ZEN was just starting. We may only see something like this another 2 years from now.

Stacking CPU dies sounds like a really bad idea temperature wise...
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Stacking CPU dies sounds like a really bad idea temperature wise...

The article mentioned the issue with heat, the technology has some sort of wafer in between the stacks which transfers the heat away from each other to the lid, it has something to do with nano technology and some material. Can't remember what is was, it was quite technical. Just wish I had a link to that article.
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Stacking CPU dies sounds like a really bad idea temperature wise...

That depends, you could fit a heat spreader in between the dies and do heat pipe-like cooling.
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