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WOW, I am so glad Amazon couldn't fill my order. This is a complete mess. I have been building computers (for myself and customers) for 25 years. I am NOT here to FUD. But after reading 200 pages here and over 1000 pages at overclock.net Ryzen forums, there is only one conclusion which is WAIT BECAUSE WE ARE ALL ALPHA TESTERS.
I KNOW how to build a system and I don't cheap out on parts, but what is scary is that even if you buy all the best parts and use the same bios settings, you get 3/10 people who can't post, 3/10 who get bsods, bootloops, crashes, and 4/10 that kinda work. So if 10 people buy an Asus VI Hero, G.skill 3200 ddr4 c14 2x8, Ryzen cpu with good cooler, gtx 1080, and a good 1000-1300 w PSU (Corsair, Seasonic, Silverstone), how the F@CK is everyone getting different (and non stable) results with the same components and bios settings?
Bottom line is I was EXCITED to build a Ryzen system, but there are only two reasons to build a system:
1)You don't have a system and need a system NOW for work, school, business (or games)
2)Your current system is dead and you need a system NOW for work, school, business (or games)
In either scenario you can't buy or a build a Ryzen system because YOU NEED IT TO WORK NOW 100% STABLE. Not, YOU NEED IT TO WORK MAYBE STABLE IN 1-2 MONTHS.
Believe me, I have 8 computers in my home all built by me, and I am SCARED to build a Ryzen system right now. Why pull your hair out for months being an alpha tester (YEAH I CONSIDER MOBOS AND THEIR BIOSES ALPHA NOW, NOT EVEN BETA)? This was THEIR JOB (AMD and Mobo manufacturers) NOT OURS. So if you really need to build a computer today, then just go with Intel or another AMD cpu (if that weak sauce will work for you), just don't build a Ryzen system. If you really want a Ryzen system, then be like me and just wait and use your current system if it works. Best case scenario is in 1-2 months you can build a Ryzens system and everything will just work without voodoo bios settings that change every day and instability. Worst case Ryzen never fixes all these stability issues and Intel releases their 6 and 8 core faster and stable cpus at a slightly higher price than Ryzen, but they just work. Hey, I'm all for saving $150 on a processor, but not if it is going to give me countless hours of aggravation and then still may need to be returned or sold. And before anyone yells FANBOI, I repeat I have 3 AMD CPU systems and 5 Intel CPU systems in my house that I have built. This post is not about Intel vs. AMD, it is about releasing a product that CLEARLY is NOT READY to be released and almost everyone, including professional system builders (like me) are pissed off because pros don't rush out alpha ***** when they know there are major issues, then say, "Well in May we will probably have memory issues solved.", LOL

As if Sandy Bridge launch with Chipset issues and haswell-e launch was flawless. Sure.

Not even that, this is expected for a brand new architecture and platform.

I, for one have a stable Ryzen PC.
     
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Theres no Dual GPU rig that needs over 1000w currently 900 even would be "safe" Now if we see x399 be a thing, and possibly Vega Quadfire, 1500w power supply's will become relevant again

When I had dual 290s and 4.6ghz 8320 would pull close to that in Crysis 3

I had a 2600k @ 4.7, and 3x 6950's and I didn't even pull close to 1300w xD.. so ya.. Gotta be careful also with power supply ratings some are at wall draw, some are Component draw.
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Well I have a few 1000-1300w psus from former dual gpu rigs as well as old crypto mining rigs. I just have a lot of parts lying around wink.gif and I don't skimp on quality.

So go and spend $2,200 on the best Intel CPU and motherboard and leave us alone. This is an Owner's Club, not a 'Pretend I was considering to become an owner so that I can slam both Ryzen and AMD repeatedly but hey, no fanboi' Club.

 
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Well yes, my current system is a 2500k at 4.7ghz with 32gb ultra low latency 2133ddr3 and 1080, so while I have other computers in my house, yes I agree a 3rd reason to upgrade is to upgrade for more cores/threads before my current build dies (but it has been rock stable 24/7/365 for 6 years).
Also, I said I have 8 computers and crypto mining hardware. So I have good 1000-1300w mostly gold psus, not platinum. I used to run crossfire 390x's, so yeah with those and overclocked cpu power can get up there. Plus you guys do realize that your PSU is most efficient at about 50% load. If you are using 500w, you don't want a 550w psu, you want a 1000w psu. It will save you money on electric and last a hell of a lot longer than running a psu at it's max rated capacity.
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Hey we dont all live in our parents basement and have to pay electric bills. Germany and the Netherlands are about .35c/kwh. If a 1000w psu can be used same price as a 750 then why not? Guess you missed the memo of vega being around 200-300w lol. Single one with a 1700x OCed youre already at 350w min conservative. HDDs, RAM, water pump, fans etc etc. It adds up you'd be surprised

Seems I struck a nerve biggrin.gif

It was a joke man. Didn't mean to hurt your feelings.

Am I the only one that read the sarcasm in Newwt's post? lol
Edited by bardacuda - 3/19/17 at 2:09pm
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OT SuperZan, but do you know if your board has vrm temperature sensors? I'm used to having them and want my next rig to have them too.
post #4877 of 11582
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Hey guys,

Does anyone know what "CPU Cache L0 Errors" in HWinfo are? I'm getting some of them, more or less depending on the settings I'm using.

Here's a screenshot (see the last line on the bottom in HWinfo):



Thanks!

Well, I've bumped the volts just one increment and ran 10 IBT on Very High without them popping up, but I'd still like to know if any of you noticed them and know what they are.

Cheers.
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So go and spend $2,200 on the best Intel CPU and motherboard and leave us alone. This is an Owner's Club, not a 'Pretend I was considering to become an owner so that I can slam both Ryzen and AMD repeatedly but hey, no fanboi' Club.

Sure, I will go spend $1600 on the best Intel CPU and motherboard IF that is what is necessary if Ryzen mobo/ram and stability issues don't get fixed within 1-2 months when Intel releases new chips that are faster and cheaper than their current ones. Either way I will build a good 8 core system, it just depend if Ryzen gets it's act together before Intel releases a more reasonable priced new 8 core in a couple months or drastically lowers it's current one.
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As if Sandy Bridge launch with Chipset issues and haswell-e launch was flawless. Sure.

Not even that, this is expected for a brand new architecture and platform.

I, for one have a stable Ryzen PC.

Me too. No issues at all. Stable as all get out.

@hotstocks maybe you should leave. We have enough trolls.
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Well yes, my current system is a 2500k at 4.7ghz with 32gb ultra low latency 2133ddr3 and 1080, so while I have other computers in my house, yes I agree a 3rd reason to upgrade is to upgrade for more cores/threads before my current build dies (but it has been rock stable 24/7/365 for 6 years).
Also, I said I have 8 computers and crypto mining hardware. So I have good 1000-1300w mostly gold psus, not platinum. I used to run crossfire 390x's, so yeah with those and overclocked cpu power can get up there. Plus you guys do realize that your PSU is most efficient at about 50% load. If you are using 500w, you don't want a 550w psu, you want a 1000w psu. It will save you money on electric and last a hell of a lot longer than running a psu at it's max rated capacity.

I also upgraded from a sandy bridge system.

Whatever you have read about problems are grossly exaggerated. This was the smoothest build ive ever had, everything worked as expected from first press of the power button.

The only issue is memory compatibility, which is going to get fixed sooner or later.
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