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It's great that the loud ones are usually the ones with issues. So the silent ones that have had no issues with Ryzen... I lost the point I was trying to make.
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Originally Posted by bardacuda View Post

I can't really blame AMD for remaining so secretive about their chip as long as they did and releasing a little early before motherboard manufacturers could catch up. They had to try and take Intel by surprise, and counter Kaby Lake before it became widely adopted, and before they got crippled again by Intel getting back to it's old shady business practices.

https://www.techpowerup.com/231038/intel-plays-dirty-over-ryzen-attempts-to-manipulate-ryzen-reviews

The Ryzen boycott is no surprise, Intel and nVidia has been doing it to AMD since 2003. The days everyone was building rigs for Doom 3 and Half-Life 2. Same again now for Doom 2016 and Half-Life....nope
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The Gskil 8GB sticks should all be single Rank sticks.

You should be installing them in A2 + B2

Completely wrong. G.Skills don't even have a unified chip under the hood.
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Actually the ram frequency is half of what your kit says because it is double data rate memory. GPU-z Actually reports the actual frequency on the page that shows the timings

If the Ram is double data rate so 3200Mhz ram is actually running at 1600Mhz if you put it on an oscilloscope and the DF would be at 800Mhz

You need to read more than being a know-it-all and half stupid.
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Just watch something like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPnW_lY7qPY
Yeah it is true that if you do something very scientific research calculation like nuclear reaction stimulation, video editing, streaming with 4K (seriously I don't know any popular streaming let people watch with 4K anyway), yeah for tasks like these Ryzen provides great value with cheaper price comparing to Intel 6/8 cores business cpu, but for normal consumers at least 99 out of 100 don't do any of these tasks. Most of the normal people just do gaming or other normal tasks like excel and stuff. For review like below basically has score for any normal task for a normal user:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_7_1800X/
basically Ryzen loses in every single score while 7700K is so much cheaper than 1800X.

Really? So you should buy a 7700K and work on your spreadsheets coz they are faster? lmao!
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Well I have a few 1000-1300w psus from former dual gpu rigs as well as old crypto mining rigs. I just have a lot of parts lying around wink.gif and I don't skimp on quality.

You said it very well, if you don't want to skimp on quality, then stop trolling this thread and pick up an Intel CPU. Your opinion does not matter here.
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It's great that the loud ones are usually the ones with issues. So the silent ones that have had no issues with Ryzen... I lost the point I was trying to make.

Silent ones Ryzen build works great, they just sit on the thread with popcorn and look at the loud ones.
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What drivers are you using for the 960 Evo? Samsung's NVMe?

Yes, samsungs
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Originally Posted by navjack27 View Post

It's great that the loud ones are usually the ones with issues. So the silent ones that have had no issues with Ryzen... I lost the point I was trying to make.

 

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Silent ones Ryzen build works great, they just sit on the thread with popcorn and look at the loud ones.

 

That's why I try to chip in even if I haven't got anything exciting to say beyond 'all ship-shape here'. It's especially funny that things seem to work fine at stock and issues people are having are to do with overclocking/tweaking on a green platform.

 

It's like some people have forgotten the golden rule of overclocking, even though @Hueristic has it sat conveniently in his sig.

 

"1. If you can't afford to lose it don't mod or OC it."

 
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Nah i was just messing with you lol. With a 1080 and 7700k a 750 is probably perfect for efficiency. However an oced 1700x and 1800x pull close to 120w and up. With vega rumored to be close to 300w its not a bad idea to go 850-1000. Its cheap here in France at .09c/kwh but in other countries its 5x that. If your pc is running 24/7 you can absolutely save money.

i have to argue that even 650w can handle OCed 1800x and one Vega OCed.

750w and above tends to be overkill for single card systems and is more suited to SLI / overclocked CPU.

of course, now for 850w and above, tri card and above, water cooling loop, blah blah blah yea.

But 750w seems to be the Goldilocks of wattage, not too high, not too low IMO.
     
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As you have C6H with voltage points I would use a DMM to check VCORE under load. I know with what I thought was 1.381V via bios settings was 1.465V on DMM.

So I opted for lower 24/7 use OC.

I just confirmed this as well. Not good at all. Hopefully future revisions correct this. Makes me wonder how accurate the GT7 and other boards are reading. rolleyes.gif

Asus CH6 Y-cruncher load
Hwinfo/AiSuite 1.373v
DMM 1.433v

Previous crosshairs did almost the same thing, under- reporting core voltages by as much as .1 volt. Looks like business as usual.
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Sandy bridge launch was flawless, I was up and running instantly, even overclocked. Later people happened to find out that one of the 6 SATA controllers wasn't working right. Hell I wouldn't have even know it because I don't have 6 ssds plugged in. But I am glad to hear from the 4 out of 10 people that their builds went smoothly, but that does not negate the other 6 out of 10 people that have had nothing but problems.

P.S. A motherboard should never brick itself, especially the highest end mobo from the most respected mobo manufacturer, lol.
Oh, but they have DUAL bios in place so that can never happen, ah right.

Ill get reported for this but whatever.

You're an idiot lol.
    
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There is obviously some confusing tech information out there from different AMD sources. Talking about ratios of 1:2 is doomed to create confusion when you have something like DDR4 with a physical operating frequency is half of what everyone is led to believe in the marketing. The 3200 number is not actually MHz it is Megaticks because it is talking about a data rate and not the physical number of clock cycles per second.

I guess that the marketing license is just another way to separate the "tech experts" from the great unwashed. I does help to keep salaries higher. :-)

At the end of the day, the DF bandwidth is related to memory frequency. I don't think there is any disagreement there. It makes no difference to any of us if it is running at 1600Mhz or 800Mhz as long as we understand what can be done to maximize it. We just want as much as we can possibly get so it performs well

Hi gtbtk,

I think The Stilt has explained it well wink.gif and is a "digestible" explanation to "enthusiasts" wink.gif .

Yes, I am aware 3200 is not MHz and is Megaticks wink.gif , but like I said the way The Stilt has explained is what many will understand wink.gif .

All the best
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