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Wait, Why are you using CH6? Toss that piece of junk. Asus is using you guys for beta testers.

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Pretty much feels that way. I've never been so tempted to take a sledgehammer to a motherboard.

Other than getting OC stable within my stability parameters I've had 0 issue from mobo.

On first install I had Q-LED for RAM and Q-Code 0d. As so much had been posted about how bad the C6H for "bricking", etc I thought it was the mobo. Turned out the G.Skill F4-3200C14D-16GTZ was DOA, RMA'd waiting on return. Grabbed some 2x4GB Corsair LPX 2400MHz C14 at local retailer and even though RAM not on QVL it worked.

I flashed to 0902 without issue using flashback feature.

I've had no "updating bios" message on boot up, no "bricking", I have no cold or warm boot issues. All devices like USB/SATA SSD & HDD work as needed. Fan profile setting for the 2 headers I use work perfect. Voltage points work as needed.

I have had no multiple boot syndrome on board either, I push power on via case button it does 1 cycle of Q-LED/Q-Codes as it should and goes to OS.

I had slight ~5°C temp out on tCTL/CPU on 0902, this assessment was done by knowing room temp and location of mobo temp sensor plus roughly knowing my case airflow setup. Once I disabled Sense MI Skew in ROM as highlighted by Elmor to a SpecChum my temps were what I had assessed.

My stability issue for OC may just be poor sample, could be as platform is immature too much of an ask. Dunno, but I do not question the quality of board and Asus (Elmor and Raja@asus) have done more to answer questions and give FW updates than any other mobo reps on OCN AFAIK.
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post #5052 of 11469
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You need to understand something gupster, you are not a normal use case type of person....i am.

You buy PC's to DO stress tests lol, i use a PC to game and everyday stuff. What sense would it make for me to unnecessarily stress my pc with programs i will never use again?

I will not comment about stress tests past this other than we can agree to disagree on what stable means.

Not to mention stress testing is useless. Because pc will still bsod in games after 24/hr stress test.
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Oh im loving it, its literally an upgrade in every respect over my 2500k....even games. Would make the purchase every time over 7700k, even as someone who mostly games.

I played SWBF on same settings as my i5 4690K @ 4.9GHz on Ryzen at stock. As I use FreeSync and limit FPS to 89 I can not state if upper limit was better or worse, average was same on in game count enabled by console. What I can say is gaming was so much smoother that it was noticeable. I also tried Crysis 3 quickly, again the same noticeable smoothness gain.

It's like FreeSync become FreeSync+ biggrin.gif .

Yeah the 1080P 3DM FS bench of R7@3.8GHz vs i5 4690K loses ~6% in combined test, 1440P is close ~3% (0.5FPS max diff). Would be nice of all sections of those benches showed R7 in good light, dunno what is going on with combined test FPS redface.gif .

Put I do not care about benches with such a small gap as usage experience is better for gaming.
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The board's bios has a mind of it's own. Sometimes it won't post from cold boot. It definitely won't boot if you unplug it for any reason, have to reset cmos. If I make changes to settings in bios that deal with the CPU or RAM, random **** happens. I've had the vcore jump to 1.7v. Temps will randomly read completely off, like 10 C. It's pretty awesome. I just wait for the day it decides to spontaneously self destruct and take out other components with it ;-)
have you checked your bios updates yet?
Edited by MrPerforations - 3/20/17 at 9:49am
    
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I have seen that as a common thread in some of the reviewers on youtube, even tho the charts show a ~15% defecit to the 7700k a lot of times they remarked the gameplay felt smoother somehow, likely due to the idle resource advantage the 1700 has smile.gif
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...My stability issue for OC may just be poor sample, could be as platform is immature too much of an ask. Dunno, but I do not question the quality of board and Asus (Elmor and Raja@asus) have done more to answer questions and give FW updates than any other mobo reps on OCN AFAIK.

No-one is questioning that. smile.gif

And If it wasn't for Elmor and Raja the RMA's would be exponentially higher.. But that doesn't let Asus off the hook.
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Isn't that dishonest?
they don't work at there rated speed though?smile.gif
    
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The board's bios has a mind of it's own. Sometimes it won't post from cold boot. It definitely won't boot if you unplug it for any reason, have to reset cmos. If I make changes to settings in bios that deal with the CPU or RAM, random **** happens. I've had the vcore jump to 1.7v. Temps will randomly read completely off, like 10 C. It's pretty awesome. I just wait for the day it decides to spontaneously self destruct and take out other components with it ;-)
have you checked your bios updates yet?

Yeah, I'm up to date.

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Not to mention stress testing is useless. Because pc will still bsod in games after 24/hr stress test.

If a game BSOD after a 24hrs stress test to me it means I did not do right stress test/OC profiling.

I do not discount general PC gaming as a stress test. For example why I run f@h or RB stress mode is both CPU/GPU are loaded, so compared with just a CPU stress test I placed more "elements" into testing. The stress testing I do with f@h also varies load on CPU/GPU compared with say something that keeps it pegged at max. That "yoyoing" will destabilize a bad OC, similar to a game.

Like I said before in other thread, I have nothing against what process or measure others use and same should go for what I may do.

I set my rigs the way I do and they work as expected, so I see no reason to change my process, but if there a reason I consider valid for me use case then I am not so "pig headed" that I would not change my methods.
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Wait, Why are you using CH6? Toss that piece of junk. Asus is using you guys for beta testers.

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Originally Posted by kundica View Post

Pretty much feels that way. I've never been so tempted to take a sledgehammer to a motherboard.

Other than getting OC stable within my stability parameters I've had 0 issue from mobo.

On first install I had Q-LED for RAM and Q-Code 0d. As so much had been posted about how bad the C6H for "bricking", etc I thought it was the mobo. Turned out the G.Skill F4-3200C14D-16GTZ was DOA, RMA'd waiting on return. Grabbed some 2x4GB Corsair LPX 2400MHz C14 at local retailer and even though RAM not on QVL it worked.

I flashed to 0902 without issue using flashback feature.

I've had no "updating bios" message on boot up, no "bricking", I have no cold or warm boot issues. All devices like USB/SATA SSD & HDD work as needed. Fan profile setting for the 2 headers I use work perfect. Voltage points work as needed.

I have had no multiple boot syndrome on board either, I push power on via case button it does 1 cycle of Q-LED/Q-Codes as it should and goes to OS.

I had slight ~5°C temp out on tCTL/CPU on 0902, this assessment was done by knowing room temp and location of mobo temp sensor plus roughly knowing my case airflow setup. Once I disabled Sense MI Skew in ROM as highlighted by Elmor to a SpecChum my temps were what I had assessed.

My stability issue for OC may just be poor sample, could be as platform is immature too much of an ask. Dunno, but I do not question the quality of board and Asus (Elmor and Raja@asus) have done more to answer questions and give FW updates than any other mobo reps on OCN AFAIK.
Uh, and you run slow ass ram which might account for why you've had no issues.

Also, just because you haven't had trouble doesn't mean everyone shares your experience. looking at the C6H forum it's full of people with issues. While many of those might be user related, many are clearly not. Yes, Elmor and Raja have been great, and the Asus community is lucky to have them, but that doesn't excuse the state the C6H shipped in which is unacceptable.

I bought the C6H for two reasons, my Rampage IV Extreme was a stable workhorse for 5 years and Asus was good about supporting the board with bios revisions. I should've known better though. With ROG you sometimes get a top tier product that really delivers, but other times you get an overpriced subpar product geared toward milking gamers(enthusiasts) because they're willing to pay. Just look at the trash QA with all those 144hz IPS panels they sold and continue to sell.
Edited by kundica - 3/20/17 at 10:17am
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