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I was merely posting @ the guys that claim stability test then game = crash.

If you game then run stability while gaming.......this way you get heat max on cpu with gpu heat in the mix.

This is just seriously some common sense...which many appear to lack these days.

Why do I care about max heat b on cpu when no program will push my cpu to the max heat?
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It runs your CPU and GPU harder than most games. I know Prime didn't test your config well but RealBench should. It brings peace of mind for future games rather than just being able to run current ones.

I have already debunked realbench.

Realbench passed at voltage settings that instantly BSOD in prime 95 blend.

I did this to "see" silicon lottery methods and how they correlated to real world.
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Why do I care about max heat b on cpu when no program will push my cpu to the max heat?

If you are stable with max heat max load cpu and gpu you are mission critical stable period.

For me? That matters.

For you? Well i would hope you would care. If i did sketchy reviews showing sketchy stability and no one else could achieve thos speeds well......be alot of miffed users who bought said product.
Edited by chew* - 3/20/17 at 10:45am
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I was merely posting @ the guys that claim stability test then game = crash.

If you game then run stability while gaming.......this way you get heat max on cpu with gpu heat in the mix.

This is just seriously some common sense...which many appear to lack these days.

This "common sense" you speak of apparently didnt exist in 2011 lol. At that point in time i hadnt built a PC in quite a number of years, but was universally suggested to run prime blend overnight for an absolutely stable system.

Yes, on this forum as well as others.

Also i do agree with you on the games+cpu intensive programs at the same time, i had swtor/eso/wow/fallout all open at once a couple days ago, while cinebench was doing its thing and CPU-z was running its built in stress test.

I will look into real bench, but i just realized its asus....not sure about that one now lol.
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I have already debunked realbench.

Realbench passed at voltage settings that instantly BSOD in prime 95 blend.

I did this to "see" silicon lottery methods and how they correlated to real world.

+1.
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Stability is relative to usage and 100% stability is almost mythical .

My main rig has a windows install on it that is over 4 years old, I typically operated it at 200 to 300 mhz higher clockspeed for it's normal daily usage than it would pass protracted stress tests at. Part of this is due to the fact that not many programs I use push an 8 core to 100% load on all cores for more than a few minutes at a time.

I also used this machine for benching etc. at 500 mhz + what it would pass stress tests at and never lost any data or corrupted the OS.

In my case , there really isn't much jeopardy in operating it this way - I don't keep anything irreplaceable on it - I have other machines for financial information - photos etc.

If I only had one machine to do it all - I probably wouldn't overclock , or if I did, I would put a bigger emphasis on stability testing.
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I run slow ass ram as my G.Skill set is in for RMA wink.gif . Then I'm just trying to sort out CPU OC stability to my liking before jumping into RAM tweaking even on my slow ass RAM wink.gif .

I own an Asus MG279Q. I never ever previously bought an Asus screen as I never truly considered than a monitor maker. Prior to my current employment I was in PC field employment for ~8yrs. Part of my job was spec'ing PCs for the company I worked for and I never got Asus screens wink.gif .

Why did I get the MG279Q, well it had the specs on the sheet I wanted. Did it deliver in performance? yes, Q/A no. Was it worse on Q/A than an Eizo FG2421 I owned and Dell U2515H? no not really.

The Eizo FG2421 I had 3 in total, first 2 had this atrocious "blue" hazing around images, one of those also had some kinda "smudge" with in screen that you could see a light grey patch. My 3rd was perfect by my standards and new owner is enjoying it still. The U2515H 1st had bad BLB, then also the touch sensitive buttons were pants, you could wait upto 5mins for power button to register on/off. 2nd had ever so slight BLB and touch buttons were perfect.

It has taken 4 screens of the MG279Q to get me what I expected. Even then I have a single dead pixel rolleyes.gif . Even though it is a later build now the FW is still not upto scratch. For example my FG2421/U2515H/2 types of Plasma have no issues displaying an image from my HD5850. The MG279Q will not even register it, I have tried known good cables that work with other monitors, all connection types and setting related to display in OSD. I have highlighted to Asus via forum and tech support line and so far no resolution.
I know your RAM is in RMA, I just wanted to point out that might be why you're sailing free.

I'm surprised you had issues with Eizo, although, I've only bought them for professional use, not gaming. I currently have a highend Eizo I use for photo/video work and it delivers in every advertised but it wasn't cheap. Dell is hit and miss, but the 2515(which I also own) doesn't run $800+. Even your MG279Q, which I suspect uses the same panels as the g-sync counterpart, is significantly cheaper. Do I think Asus was wrong for selling all those monitors with issues? I don't know. But do I think they're wrong for charging a premium for them? Definitely.
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I was merely posting @ the guys that claim stability test then game = crash.

If you game then run stability while gaming.......this way you get heat max on cpu with gpu heat in the mix.

This is just seriously some common sense...which many appear to lack these days.

True, back in the day my stress test was running doom under win 3.1 demo overnight. biggrin.gif
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If you are stable with max heat max load cpu and gpu you are mission critical stable period.

For me? That matters.

For you? Well i would hope you would care. If i did sketchy reviews showing sketchy stability and no one else could achieve thos speeds well......be alot of miffed users who bought said product.

If I want to ensure I am stable at max heat I do encoding for hours. That will bring my CPU up to max realistic heat.

As I have said prime for hours means nothing if PC crashes in other programs after being stable in prime.

For GPU i run 3dmark loop for max heat.
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@cssorkinman

+rep, nice rounded post covering aspects for all IMO thumb.gif .

@kundica

Yeah the slow ass RAM could be the reason for sailing free smile.gif , but when the "wotsit" hits the fan from higher speed you can guarantee I will share the experience thumb.gif .

Even the Eizo FG2421 wasn't cheap at the time. The image quality to me on the U2515H was the best I had ever laid my eyes on TBH, IMO down to the high DPI of 25" with 1440P res. If that had even 75Hz or 90Hz refresh I would never have even considered the MG279Q. Besides how I saw the U2515H for image quality. It looked far more swish on the desk than any of my other monitors. "bang for $" again cracking IMO.

I will agree the MG279Q is over priced, but I paid well below RRP or normal etailer pricing wink.gif , that has been only reason why it was not moved on! wink.gif .
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