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Well, Manual says it's an Invalid CPU Speed. redface.gif


That's just it though! My CPU is 100% stock for the time being.
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Mine is FF at boot, then moves to 56. Stock or overclocked.

Good to hear I'm not completely alone.

Hearing all this discussion of boards bricking has got me nervous I suppose... I think I'll stay on the stock BIOS until some time has passed.
post #5212 of 13732
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He wasn't aiming for a record. Just pleasantly surprised

That was our testing with MSI enabled and a 100Mhz p-state overclock. Wendel had not even overclocked the Graphics card at that stage so I don't think it will last that long.

This is from my initial analysis. The scores are just random but different machines from the advanced search results and they are using 1080. The only score that is important to look at in my investigation is the efficiency scores that I have calculated from FS Combined score/physics score. You can calculate your own scores and see how they compare if you want. 

just looking here we see that Ryzen has something that is impeding performance that is not specific to CPU or GPU but only when both sides are being hammered so the conclusion is that it is something in between. 6900K and 7700K do not seem to have that same affliction. 
 
GTX1080    
6900K    
     
3DMark Score 22,072.00 21,614.00
Graphics Score 25,157.00 25,088.00
Physics Score 24,828.00 23,767.00
Combined Score 10,581.00 9,941.00
     
Efficiency Comb/Physics 0.4261720638 0.4182690285
     
Ryzen 1700    
     
3DMark Score 18,967.00 18,720.00
Graphics Score 24,031.00 24,159.00
Physics Score 20,379.00 20,420.00
Combined Score 7,066.00 6,655.00
     
Efficiency Comb/Physics 0.3467294764 0.3259059745
     
i7-7700K    
     
3DMark Score 20,911.00 20,863.00
Graphics Score 25,639.00 25,594.00
Physics Score 17,111.00 16,608.00
Combined Score 10,202.00 10,421.00
     
Efficiency Comb/Physics 0.5962246508 0.6274686898

The scores should improve as the chipset matures and patches come rolling out. Still impressive as is.

I absolutely agree. I am not trying to attack AMD.

 

I have identified an issue that I am putting down to x370/Ryzen platform Immaturity.

 

Thing is though, to fix a problem you have to actually find the problem and this launch and the Reviews has been really strange.

 

All the reviewers on mass found a hole in performance right where they had decided was the sweet spot to stress the CPU. No dispute, there is an issue - It needs attention and needs fixing. SMT on/off behavior was strange, reduced gaming framerates at 1080p with 1 Titan XP etc. 

 

Problem is, that on mass these "analytical" reviewers, with only one data point to go on dropped everything, declared that Ryzen was flawed at gaming. No investigation with a 1060 to see if what they saw was consistent with lower cards, no analysis of what they had actually been testing, they were so entrenched with the thought that what they were testing was CPU only, they forgot that the GPU and CPU are connected with something in the middle that was brand new and unseen before. Every review posted the quite acceptable Firestrike physics scores and totally ignored the really low combined scores.  Hmmmm Good graphics + good physics = terrible combined. It never occurred to the "Analytical " reviewers it was a strange result?

 

Did you see anything in the English media investigate that? I didn't see anything. All I saw was the media proclaiming the windows scheduler is to blame and any time anyone pointed out that it could not be that the herd tried to trample them. If it was true that the scheduler was to blame, you would see evidence of the scheduler causing issues in non gaming tests and there is no evidence of that. Then AMD announced that the scheduler was working fine. It did make me smile.

 

Next came the CCX thread switching that they jumped on next, the herd attacking anyone that suggested that the threads were reliant on bandwidth of the data fabric which also explained other graphics anomalies but they never looked so it didnt exist.

 

There are a number who complain if someone calls them a shill but they don't do anything to help distance themselves from that.

 

Sorry, Rant over

post #5213 of 13732
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Originally Posted by mus1mus View Post

Well, Manual says it's an Invalid CPU Speed. redface.gif


That's just it though! My CPU is 100% stock for the time being.
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Originally Posted by SLK View Post

Mine is FF at boot, then moves to 56. Stock or overclocked.

Good to hear I'm not completely alone.

Hearing all this discussion of boards bricking has got me nervous I suppose... I think I'll stay on the stock BIOS until some time has passed.

You should monitor the bios situation rather than ignore it.

 

There is instability around and the next one may be the one that solves a good part of it. Certainly stand back and let the adventurous go first and see what happens then decide

post #5214 of 13732
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Anybody with a Gigabyte K7 getting code "56" constantly on the error LED?

My system works fine, but it's been like this since day 1 (last Friday).

Stock BIOS, BTW.

yea, 56 code on my gaming 5 too. works fine though.
     
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Hey guys, my brother has his Ryzen 1700 gigabyte K7 up and running, hes coming from a phenom ii x4 965, hes at 3.4 ghz all 8 cores manual @ 1.22 V, 2400 mhz ram flare x kit @ 16-16-16-36 1.25 V, those are the first manual settings we just plugged in, playing overwatch @ 1080p and already the difference is night and day. He is reporting incredible smoothness at the same frame rates. Ryzen is providing smoother gameplay than older quad cores for sure and makes the gaming experience that much better. My motherboard should be here tomorrow and ill be moving up from a core i5 760, cant wait.

ITS RYZEN TIME!!!!!! ( insert picture of intel cpu running away )NO DADDY NOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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yea, 56 code on my gaming 5 too. works fine though.

Thank you for confirming. thumb.gif
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Can't believe my Biostar X370 GT7 seems to be the most stable board of the bunch available.


Quite amusing.
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Can't believe my Biostar X370 GT7 seems to be the most stable board of the bunch available.


Quite amusing.

Who's to know, how many people have Biostars in comparison to Gigas and Asuses and Asrocks?

Who knows if Biostar may be as buggy too, but not enough of a sample size to know then.

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Hey guys, my brother has his Ryzen 1700 gigabyte K7 up and running, hes coming from a phenom ii x4 965, hes at 3.4 ghz all 8 cores manual @ 1.22 V, 2400 mhz ram flare x kit @ 16-16-16-36 1.25 V, those are the first manual settings we just plugged in, playing overwatch @ 1080p and already the difference is night and day. He is reporting incredible smoothness at the same frame rates. Ryzen is providing smoother gameplay than older quad cores for sure and makes the gaming experience that much better. My motherboard should be here tomorrow and ill be moving up from a core i5 760, cant wait.

ITS RYZEN TIME!!!!!! ( insert picture of intel cpu running away )NO DADDY NOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I wonder why this "smoothness" is not reflected in um, Youtuber tech reviewers. or you know, you can't tell just by looking at frame rate graphs.
     
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Who's to know, how many people have Biostars in comparison to Gigas and Asuses and Asrocks?

Who knows if Biostar may be as buggy too, but not enough of a sample size to know then.

There has been at least 5 of us on this thread i believe. I know Super Zan has one. Her's works alright. Then there is the Joseph Imports guy.
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There only has been 1 other user besides me with a Biostar that has been reporting to this thread. Ive been working and learning this board since I got it last week. I'll just say, sure as hell not as much of a issue than all the posts I've been digging on the MSI, Asus, Gigabyte boards, Just my 2 cents.

FYI, I'm not saying Biostar is the best board either.

Oh snap, Shift has one also, 3 of us!
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