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Where do I posted it

Follow the link in the other post.

Heck, I'll put it here

http://www.overclock.net/t/1406832/single-gpu-fire-strike-top-30

Follow the instructions in the 1st post - some of the rules seem picky, but the guys running the threads usually expect entries to follow a certain format. And some of the threads don't get updated too often, don't sweat it, they'll get around to it.
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you need to run all the tests and have a look at how the graphics score also changes as the combined score increases. 

Not much of an increase i doubt it will change the dip is weird and its done it all 3 times.

I have seen this behavior before with Firestrike, what you are seeing is not Ryzen specific. When I did see it, I never made the connection with changing power plans because I never realized the power plans did much more than change the minimum CPU state from 100% to 5%.

 

Did you notice that as the combined score went up, the graphics score/physics scores changed as well? that change in the direction the sub scores are going relative to each other, is repeatable and not as random as it may appear.

 

With the combined score part, the cpu is under similar sorts of workloads and is analogous with running an actual game  such as as when you are running GTA V, tomb raider etc. (calculating the game, physics, scenery, shadows etc using a highly multithreaded physics library).  If you turn SMT off, and repeat those runs. I guarantee that the total, physics and likely the combined component will be worse simply because the physics test that FS is running is highly multi threaded but what happens to the graphics scores? The graphics tests just sends a preset stream of commands to the GPU like a movie except the the commands are to render a series of frames using gpu features. The CPU is not having to do any on the fly physics calculations that would add extra CPU load.

 

I know that the the different parts of FS loads are not exactly the same as a game and every game places different loads on the CPU and GPU but, the CPU doesn't know what a thread will be used for until the instructions arrive to be processed using a CPU feature. The games that score better with SMT off, by definition could not be very multithreaded and are behaving more like the graphics tests as opposed to the combined tests, because you have less threads available and the games they highlighted still got better scores.

 

With SMT turned off, If you repeat the the experiment changing the power management, is the SMT off score still predictably going up and down? I don't know what will happen, but I am pretty sure the behavior will be the same, albeit with lower scores, that you are seeing now with SMT on.

 

If the direction of change in the combined results remain consistant in the balanced/HP power tests, you have just demonstrated that the scheduler and thread switching are not the cause of the ryzen benchmark anomalies. But as you can increase the combined "gaming" performance by adjusting a power setting, it is related to one of the many things that windows is doing within the power management settings and it would seem that what ever that particular setting is, has a different level of effect compared to what it does with an intel chip. 

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Thanks LightOfHonor and Bloot. Both boards have 2x M.2 slots, however I think the X370 may have two better ones, or it is the same. I'm not going to Sli or Crossfire, may possibly run a RX480 alongside a 1060, the 1060 for the Windows VM and the RX480 for Linux, I would go with two RX 480's but CUDA is currently faster than OpenCL on Blender, unless AMD releases their ProRender plugin for Blender soon. Only thing that confuses me is that the B350's are supposed to support Crossfire while X370 of course as SLi as well. I emailed AsRock to find out about IOMMU for the KVM/QEMU VM setup on the AB350-Pro4.

This is their response:

Thank you for contacting ASRock support.
The board does not support both SLI and Crossfire.
But it has IOMMU for virtual technology.
It can be Enable/disable in the BIOS/Advance/ North Bridge Configuration
Board sped link: http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/AB350%20Pro4/index.asp#Specification

I'm guessing the board does have Crossfire at least, but the answer is somewhat confusing and the Specifications on the site does not specify Crossfire support.

Yeah, b350 boards only do crossfire. Money savings by not being Nvidia approved :-)

Great to know they are still well equipped though!
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This Is at 4.125

How does this compare to others
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This Is at 4.125

How does this compare to others

Ran that test a few times at 4.05 the other day. I got between 2340 and 2360. So I'd say your result is right in line with what I'd expect.
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Yeah, b350 boards only do crossfire. Money savings by not being Nvidia approved :-)

Great to know they are still well equipped though!

I've ended up deciding on getting a X370 board, due this video shared by IvanTheDugtrio

I'm still deciding on whether to go with the AsRock Killer SLi or with the ASUS X370 PRIME-PRO, which is $10 more in my country. It kind of makes me sad, the PRIME-PRO is $63 cheaper on newegg in the US, the RX480 I ordered is $160 more in my country. Smaller market I guess.
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so i attempted to debunk bits and chips twitter graph that the newest windows10 updates make performance better...

https://twitter.com/BitsAndChipsEng/status/843864982320267265

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lvjmaVF4UIjHv8fu0iXunMcxF8wATesWJqHD8qP9AF8/edit

so far it rings true

any review?
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Anyone want 5k benchmarks?

Pics coming soon.
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Here is a new firestrike

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12080966
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btw guys, If no one got the word for Corsair and Artic Cooling for the AM4 Retention bracket.

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