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Flashing VIA internet is just a bad idea all around.
Why? It works fine.
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Ya im not worried about flashing via internet i just want to see what changes they have listed before doing it.

I havent had an internet outage in 2+ years, if it happens during a 30 second bios flash i should go out and buy a lottery ticket pronto.
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post #5663 of 11554
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Anyone have any comments on silicon lottery ryzens? I see they have 1700 that does 4ghz @ 1.44v and 1800x that does 4.1 on similar voltages. Does this even sound good or what? I am curious about the binning on these and VID/OC.

The Stilt has highlighted in a recent post 1700 is lower leakage and 1700X / 1800X higher. Perhaps binning is done that way??
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Just keep the voltages at sane levels (< 1.45V for VDDCR_CPU, < 1.10V for VDDCR_SoC) and don't tamper with the load-line settings, unless you actually MEASURE significant amounts of droop, under load (which is not likely on C6H). Voltage overshoot hurts just as bad as undershoot, when it comes to stability. If you need to increase the load-line setting (i.e. introduce overshoot) to maintain stability, then your voltages are not set correctly to begin with.

The load-line options in bios translate to:

Auto = ±0% (1.425mOhm)
Level 1 = -40% (0.855mOhm)
Level 2 = -50% (0.7125mOhm)
Level 3 = -75% (0.35625mOhm)
Level 4 = -85% (0.21375mOhm)
Level 5 = -100% (0.0000mOhm)

I personally recommend to keep the load-line settings at "Auto" at all times, unless you are doing LN2 runs.

The main difference between the different Ryzen 7-series SKUs (aside of the clocks) is the leakage. The 1700 SKUs have low leakage characteristics, while both 1700X & 1800X are high(er) leaking silicon. Because of that 1700 requires even less load-line biasing than the other two (due the currents being lower).
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post #5664 of 11554
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You try upping the voltage on the SOC?

Windows hates the 0.25 multipliers.


Default SOC voltage is 1.1v and I am hearing that is even overkill.
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post #5665 of 11554
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Flashing VIA internet is just a bad idea all around.

+1, I would be "bricking" myself doing an bios update via the web.
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Default SOC voltage is 1.1v and I am hearing that is even overkill.

I've been reading that driving the clock rates across all cores will need 1.15v-1.2v on the SOC.
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Ya im not worried about flashing via internet i just want to see what changes they have listed before doing it.

I havent had an internet outage in 2+ years, if it happens during a 30 second bios flash i should go out and buy a lottery ticket pronto.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ducegt View Post

Why? It works fine.

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Originally Posted by Johan45 View Post

Flashing VIA internet is just a bad idea all around.

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Originally Posted by gupsterg View Post

+1, I would be "bricking" myself doing an bios update via the web.


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How are you getting these lol, its not even on this page:
http://www.asrock.com/support/download.asp?cat=BIOS

Hackerz@!

Are there any notes on 1.7 yet?
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+1, I would be "bricking" myself doing an bios update via the web.
That's unrelated to the web feature though. ASRock is using 2 chips with automatic fail over so even if the connection drops or flash goes bad, no worries. I've only had positive experiences, but it's easy enough to download a file to a USB drive as well.
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Anyone have any comments on silicon lottery ryzens? I see they have 1700 that does 4ghz @ 1.44v and 1800x that does 4.1 on similar voltages. Does this even sound good or what? I am curious about the binning on these and VID/OC.

I just posted today. My 1700 hits 4GHz @ 1.3375v, which is the best I've seen anywhere. Hitting 4.1 on it requires over 1.4v. I never tried finding out where it becomes stable because with that big a voltage jump for 100MHz it's clear where this chip is happy.

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The Stilt has highlighted in a recent post 1700 is lower leakage and 1700X / 1800X higher. Perhaps binning is done that way??

AMD is binning by voltage and not clock speed.
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