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My 1700 is a dud..

Can game BF1/GTAV/WIlands at 4000 1.400V. But even 1.450V and instacrash in Cinebench R15. :/

If you are adventurous add just a little more and maybe it clears cinebench. I managed to run a couple runs of cinebench15 with a little more than 1.460volts, I didn't have enough time than a quick test to save a score though and seeing the voltage to back down in my early runs. I could not get stability until more down to 3.9 before I had issues with ram dying on me in longer stability tests.
    
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@chew*

+rep smile.gif.

@bluej511

Bro. In the OP of my thread in sig I created a section Pro Belt vs socket.

A C6H owner measured ~0.019V difference. He has yet to specify exactly how he did the measuring at socket, another owner is also planning to test, when he does post result will place there.

The owner that did test had a tempered glass side panel, seems to me when he did test he accidentally smashed panel from removal/reinstall redface.gif , posted images in C6H OC thread.

To me it doesn't seem worth the hassle/risk measuring at socket. There is no read points near the socket front or back like the "Pro Belt" area. So you will be doing as mus1mus linked YT video / chew* info.

Me and you are not going "extreme OC", I reckon for those peeps it's worth it.
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@chew*

+rep smile.gif.

@bluej511

Bro. In the OP of my thread in sig I created a section Pro Belt vs socket.

A C6H owner measured ~0.019V difference. He has yet to specify exactly how he did the measuring at socket, another owner is also planning to test, when he does post result will place there.

The owner that did test had a tempered glass side panel, seems to me when he did test he accidentally smashed panel from removal/reinstall redface.gif , posted images in C6H OC thread.

To me it doesn't seem worth the hassle/risk measuring at socket. There is no read points near the socket front or back like the "Pro Belt" area. So you will be doing as mus1mus linked YT video / chew* info.

Me and you are not going "extreme OC", I reckon for those peeps it's worth it.

.019 thats it? So not much difference to begin with thats alright then. Btw i changed my voltage from 1.238 to 1.258 and still get 3 WHEA errors after 15mins, down from 7 or so. Whats surprising me though is that some people are getting em at stock speeds which is a bit concerning. Not sure exactly whats going on. Been fine for me the past couple days, ran realbench, cinebench, gamed about 8hrs straight and havent had any issues.

My tctl temps and cpu temps are still well below 60°C though, i think CPU on the mobo inhwinfo shows 54-55°C and tctl peaked at like 50°C lol.
    
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I just wanna do it to know which of the three sensors is closer to the actual value.

ITE - reports the highest value
VRM - Very Close to the CPU
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@bluej511

The testing was also high vcore, ~1.45. So I reckon higher OC/volts may show more of a LLC effect. So low OC peeps like us LLC effect from OC gonna be lower. Read Elmor's post carefully and share your thoughts. To me it's reading that when we use pro belt we're reading from VRM to CPU, so you seeing a value with LLC. At socket (correct place) you see drooped value.

If it's cache errors then up VCORE.

Yeah my crazy testing and some from finalheaven's testing you wanna repeat testing with these chips. You could pass a run and then later same run not.

For my 3.8GHz OC I went from initial testing VCORE offset of +106.25mV to +137.50. Even my initial testing would be longer/various apps compared with how you highlighted you test wink.gif .

I'm taking temps with huge pinch of salt wink.gif .

1001 is crazy low temps for me, even adjusting Sense MI Skew/offset did not bring temps to level I expect them to be. I can idle at 10C in room of 22C on air cooler! biggrin.gif .

0902 is better for me on temp accuracy. I use Sense MI skew: [Disabled] as Elmor reconfirmed in recent post this is AMD default "behaviour" for tCTL. Sense MI offset: [Auto].

Changing those two on 1001 did not help. I even played with another setting T Offset, which IIRC you suggested wink.gif .
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Derp. Forgot the phrase "on air". Either way ryzen seems to clock reasonably well considering that it is a new microarch.

Lol I shouldve mentioned that the world record was delided and nitro cooled. But some guys did hit over 4.0 with some after market coolers, those lucky enough to get brackets.
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Btw am i the only one not having a single issue with my PC? Both builds have been rock solid for me both OCed, the G5 running 2666mhz and the ch6 running 2933. I haven't had a single BSOD, and not a single hard freeze.

I'm using the lan/audio drivers from Asus, the gpu/chipset drivers from AMD, have done TWO fresh installs one for each mobo.
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@bluej511

The testing was also high vcore, ~1.45. So I reckon higher OC/volts may show more of a LLC effect. So low OC peeps like us LLC effect from OC gonna be lower. Read Elmor's post carefully and share your thoughts. To me it's reading that when we use pro belt we're reading from VRM to CPU, so you seeing a value with LLC. At socket (correct place) you see drooped value.

If it's cache errors then up VCORE.

Yeah my crazy testing and some from finalheaven's testing you wanna repeat testing with these chips. You could pass a run and then later same run not.

For my 3.8GHz OC I went from initial testing VCORE offset of +106.25mV to +137.50. Even my initial testing would be longer/various apps compared with how you highlighted you test.

I'm taking temps with huge pinch of salt.

1001 is crazy low temps for me, even adjusting Sense MI Skew/offset did not bring temps to level I expect them to be. I can idle at 10C in room of 22C on air cooler! biggrin.gif .

0902 is better for me on temp accuracy. I use Sense MI skew: [Disabled] as Elmor reconfirmed in recent post this is AMD default "behaviour" for tCTL. Sense MI offset: [Auto].

Changing those two on 1001 did not help. I even played with another setting T Offset.

Yea im still in the negative offset for me, i just find it very odd that some peeps are having cache errors on stock everything.

My temps actually seem correct, especially tctl. Right now just goofing around and download on origin with chrome open i ended up peaking at about 54w or so, tctl shows 48.6°C so the temps/power package (provided its semi accurate) are exactly where my i5 4690k is, im also in balanced mode and the 4 other cores are barely being used. cpu temp shows it at 53°C so im leaning towards the temps being correct from that theory. When package wattage goes up so does temps as well, tctl ive seen reach high 50°C i believe and so did CPU sensor. So seems somewhat alright.

I have the miskew and all that stuff left alone i havent touched em at all so theyre on auto or stock or whatever its set to. Seems about right to me.

P.S. You are on a 1700 which seem to run much cooler then a 1700x so your temps are fine, besides the 10°C idle haha.
    
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Btw am i the only one not having a single issue with my PC? Both builds have been rock solid for me both OCed, the G5 running 2666mhz and the ch6 running 2933. I haven't had a single BSOD, and not a single hard freeze.

I'm using the lan/audio drivers from Asus, the gpu/chipset drivers from AMD, have done TWO fresh installs one for each mobo.
Yea im still in the negative offset for me, i just find it very odd that some peeps are having cache errors on stock everything.

My temps actually seem correct, especially tctl. Right now just goofing around and download on origin with chrome open i ended up peaking at about 54w or so, tctl shows 48.6°C so the temps/power package (provided its semi accurate) are exactly where my i5 4690k is, im also in balanced mode and the 4 other cores are barely being used. cpu temp shows it at 53°C so im leaning towards the temps being correct from that theory. When package wattage goes up so does temps as well, tctl ive seen reach high 50°C i believe and so did CPU sensor. So seems somewhat alright.

I have the miskew and all that stuff left alone i havent touched em at all so theyre on auto or stock or whatever its set to. Seems about right to me.

P.S. You are on a 1700 which seem to run much cooler then a 1700x so your temps are fine, besides the 10°C idle haha.

so now you're on Asus, how do you put in the same values to get 1.24v vcore for 3.8 ghz the Asus way compared to Gigabyte?
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My 1700 is a dud..

Can game BF1/GTAV/WIlands at 4000 1.400V. But even 1.450V and instacrash in Cinebench R15. :/

it's a 1700, it's binned for more efficient lower Vcore for 3.0-3.8 ghz, but loses out on "better lower vcore" for 3.9 ghz-4.1 ghz compared to the X models.

You're better off doing in the range of 1.16v-1.24v vcore for 3.8 ghz for the 1700.
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so now you're on Asus, how do you put in the same values to get 1.24v vcore for 3.8 ghz the Asus way compared to Gigabyte?
it's a 1700, it's binned for more efficient lower Vcore for 3.0-3.8 ghz, but loses out on "better lower vcore" for 3.9 ghz-4.1 ghz compared to the X models.

You're better off doing in the range of 1.16v-1.24v vcore for 3.8 ghz for the 1700.

Pretty much the same way, with offset and using +/- on the keyboard to change the offset mv. On the Asus though i do believe you can put in your own offset as well (although i havent tried yet), because compared to the Gigabyte, the Asus has an option to set offset to + and - as a value and on a separate line the actual offset in mv.
    
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Pretty much the same way, with offset and using +/- on the keyboard to change the offset mv. On the Asus though i do believe you can put in your own offset as well (although i havent tried yet), because compared to the Gigabyte, the Asus has an option to set offset to + and - as a value and on a separate line the actual offset in mv.

Not gonna lie, Asus has UEFI design down to a tee, now if there only was like, a Gigabyte dual BIOs mobo with Asus UEFI design.... ahhhhh one can dream.
     
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