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You should run the tests as long as you intend to run the machine for at high workload. Say you play games for a couple hours you should run it for twice that to verify it's integrity. If it can run twice the time you'd play a game for than it's likely to be stable.

This is what I do exactly. I don't include "new" game in my findings. New games that are released are prone to crashes on a virgin system no matter what the user has control over, and its a game issue. I run tests on games that have been labeled "stable" for a long time and base my results off of that.

So games I've been playing for years ex; BF4 are stable are stable and others I test are fine. I will not conclude my results on newly released demos, beta releases due to instability.
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I'm just concerned with RealBench. While RealBench might not crash it gives WHEA errors (you can check if using HWiNFO) which signals close call to BSOD. RealBench errors all disappear with enough volts though. So was wondering if you ran that for only an hour or so and that tested it for error reporting.

Random crashes with this CPU are widely attributed to a variety of things not stamped out currently in BIOS. I ultimately advise people to wait before pushing their equipment too high until there is a proper BIOS that addresses the wide set of issues people are experiencing. I for one can say that my current BETA bios of Gigabyte is solid at stock but quirks up with clock. If I fold back to the original BIOS I can achieve higher RAM performance and even more CPU OC under less volts. I feel we need to wait, period.
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lol know the feels

I am derpy when it comes to overclocking memory, for example how would i know what timings to set 4000 ram at to run at 3200 properly? That is kind of my hang up here.

You can use AIDA 64 Extreme. Under the motherboard section you can view your memory modules timings and the chipset category gives a comprehensive list of your motherboards timings.
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This is what I do exactly. I don't include "new" game in my findings. New games that are released are prone to crashes on a virgin system no matter what the user has control over, and its a game issue. I run tests on games that have been labeled "stable" for a long time and base my results off of that.

So games I've been playing for years ex; BF4 are stable are stable and others I test are fine. I will not conclude my results on newly released demos, beta releases due to instability.

Games unfortunately are not hard enough on a CPU. I mean they're great, but they won't allow you look for destabilizations. You might find the problems you're experiencing by using a stress testing application. Memory issues may give you false positives that the CPU is having a hard time.

Grab yourself bluescreenview and you can follow the errors from there. Perhaps an audio driver is breaking at the higher clock rate. It'll tell you.
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You can use AIDA 64 Extreme. Under the motherboard section you can view your memory modules timings and the chipset category gives a comprehensive list of your motherboards timings.

Ya but thats like 40 bucks haha.

This ram for example:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232443

Would 14 14 14 34 be a good guesstimate? That is what most samsung 3200 ram runs at ive noticed.
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Random crashes with this CPU are widely attributed to a variety of things not stamped out currently in BIOS. I ultimately advise people to wait before pushing their equipment too high until there is a proper BIOS that addresses the wide set of issues people are experiencing. I for one can say that my current BETA bios of Gigabyte is solid at stock but quirks up with clock. If I fold back to the original BIOS I can achieve higher RAM performance and even more CPU OC under less volts. I feel we need to wait, period.

Asus is much farther ahead in Bios than others. Except the motherboard bricking bug which was fixed a while back. I am rock solid with 3200 14-14-14-34 and have also run 4x8 (32gb) with 18-16-16-36. Pushing 3.8Ghz isn't too much. Most records have been by Asus as you probably already know.
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Asus is much farther ahead in Bios than others. Except the motherboard bricking bug which was fixed a while back. I am rock solid with 3200 14-14-14-34 and have also run 4x8 (32gb) with 18-16-16-36. Pushing 3.8Ghz isn't too much. Most records have been Asus as you probably already know.

You can paint me green with envy. I'm still waiting with Gigabyte. I've got too many BSODs running games with FMA3 instructions.
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I'm just concerned with RealBench. While RealBench might not crash it gives WHEA errors (you can check if using HWiNFO) which signals close call to BSOD. RealBench errors all disappear with enough volts though. So was wondering if you ran that for only an hour or so and that tested it for error reporting.

RealBench is also the closest thing to a gaming benchmark because it also stresses GPU at the same time.

I'll be honest (then again, people gonna get salty real quick) I don't run real bench (specially any GPU benches) because it still doesn't give me any insight on the CPU. Just because its partial load of the CPU/GPU, I can't determine if its a full on CPU or GPU issue. I've been running the same GPU for quite a long time now and now have logged the safe "oc" clocks, include stock clocks and so called "extreme" clocks to push on air which I can fall back on if I wanna exclude the GPU.

Then again, I'll also say I haven't encountered any WHEA errors at all in HWiNFO in my 3.7/3.8 testing results.
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You can paint me green with envy. I'm still waiting with Gigabyte. I've got too many BSODs running games with FMA3 instructions.

No need. Gigabyte is closing in on Asus quick and they're widely known to be top tier. Like all brands throughout history, Asus may be overtaken with Gigabyte being the most likely do so.
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No need. Gigabyte is closing in on Asus quick and they're widely known to be top tier. Like all brands throughout history, Asus may be overtaken with Gigabyte being the most likely do so.

Well I'm envious over the fact you're closer to achieving stability. I have only a few more days with my computer before I'm flying out for a month.
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