Overclock.net › Forums › AMD › AMD CPUs › [Official] RYZEN 7 1800X | 1700X |1700 Owners Club & 4GHz+ Club
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

[Official] RYZEN 7 1800X | 1700X |1700 Owners Club & 4GHz+ Club - Page 594

post #5931 of 11744
Quote:
Originally Posted by yetta View Post

Hard to say, both share many chipset simularities, the Taichi has wi-fi while the k7 has a killer nic, both have the same audio processor except the k7 has sound blaster x-fi support. The K7 says it has higher ram support, but I'm sure the taichi should be able to hit the same with manual OC. If you're more interested in eye-candy go with the K7, if you want the wi-fi go for the taichi.

Thank you, the Taichi color scheme fits in better with the other parts i have than the K7, i was just unsure if i should jump on the k7 because of the ram. From what i see it also has dual alc 1220 for front and rear. Don't really know how that helps though. The phase config is weaker on the K7 but the Taichi's one is surely overkill for the current R7 procs. Decisions, decisions...
AMD
(9 items)
 
Home PC
(9 items)
 
Current
(9 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD 8320 Asus M5A99X EVO Rev 2.0 Sapphire 7970 Kingston HyperX Beast 2x4Gb 9CL 1600Mhz 
Hard DriveCoolingOSPower
Samsung 830 128 Gb ThermalRight Macho r2-h0 Windows 8.1 Corair 650W TX 
Case
Zalman Z11 Plus 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
3770k Gigabyte Z77x UD3H Intel HD 4000 Geil Black Dragon 2 x 4 GB 1600 Mhz 
Hard DriveCoolingOSPower
Samsung 830  Thermalright True Spirit 120 Windows 7 SP1 x64 Corsair 650TX v2 
Case
Corsair Carbide 400R 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4790k Asus VII Ranger Gigabyte 290 8 Gb Corsair DDR3 
Hard DriveCoolingKeyboardPower
3 x Samsung 850 250gb SSD Swiftech H220 BlackWidow Ultimate EVGA 850 G2 
Case
Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX 
  hide details  
Reply
AMD
(9 items)
 
Home PC
(9 items)
 
Current
(9 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD 8320 Asus M5A99X EVO Rev 2.0 Sapphire 7970 Kingston HyperX Beast 2x4Gb 9CL 1600Mhz 
Hard DriveCoolingOSPower
Samsung 830 128 Gb ThermalRight Macho r2-h0 Windows 8.1 Corair 650W TX 
Case
Zalman Z11 Plus 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
3770k Gigabyte Z77x UD3H Intel HD 4000 Geil Black Dragon 2 x 4 GB 1600 Mhz 
Hard DriveCoolingOSPower
Samsung 830  Thermalright True Spirit 120 Windows 7 SP1 x64 Corsair 650TX v2 
Case
Corsair Carbide 400R 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4790k Asus VII Ranger Gigabyte 290 8 Gb Corsair DDR3 
Hard DriveCoolingKeyboardPower
3 x Samsung 850 250gb SSD Swiftech H220 BlackWidow Ultimate EVGA 850 G2 
Case
Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5932 of 11744
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bold Eagle View Post

Completely uninstall and reinstall the latest versions, ensuring to use the registry scrubber with CCleaner.

didn't work
post #5933 of 11744
Quote:
Originally Posted by FoamyV View Post

Thank you, the Taichi color scheme fits in better with the other parts i have than the K7, i was just unsure if i should jump on the k7 because of the ram. From what i see it also has dual alc 1220 for front and rear. Don't really know how that helps though. The phase config is weaker on the K7 but the Taichi's one is surely overkill for the current R7 procs. Decisions, decisions...

Don't worry i'm facing the same dilemma of indecisiveness for mobo picks.
post #5934 of 11744
Quote:
Originally Posted by SpecChum View Post

I'm gonna give this a go...

When using Ryzen Master can I leave my CPU BIOS overclock on, or do I have to set them both in RM?

You should be able to leave your UEFI overclock of the CPU in place, but I just do both in Ryzen Master (since CPU OC in my UEFI leads to reboot loops, bleh).
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scotty99 View Post

Hmm never considered ryzen master. Could you explain what i would have to tweak in the bios before attempting to set speeds with ryzen master? Ive never tweaked any of those you mentioned, so id have no clue what to set them too. My ram is 3200 cas 16, 16 18 18 38 1.35v spec.

Appreciate it.

Edit, could i just put my ram volts to 1.35 save and exit bios and then try and tweak speeds in ryzen master?

All I do on my X370 Taichi UEFI is:

leave CPU, RAM speeds @ default

leave CPU voltage @ default, but set CPU LLC to Level 1 (used to use Level 3, now use 1 for AVX)

Set SoC voltage to 1.0v (or 1.1v-1.2v or whatever), set SoC LLC to Level 3

Set DRAM voltage (MEM VDDIO or whatever its called) to 1.4v

Set VTT_DDR to .7v

Set 2.50V_PROM to 2.6v

Set +1.8v to 1.9v

Set VDDP to 1.010v

Set 1.05V_PROM to 1.070v

Boot to Windows, open up Ryzen Master

Set VDDCR SoC to 1.0v (to match UEFI)

Leave MEM VDDIO and MEM VTT alone; both will read 0.00

Set CPU Voltage to 1.35v

Initially I leave CPU speed alone, which will default to 3.7 GHz

Then I set memclock to 1600, set timings to 14-14-32-14-14 (strange order, but that's how it's laid out in the program)

I hit apply, forcing a reboot. I do not enter the UEFI during the reboot

Viola, now it will boot @ DDR4-3200 14-14-14-32 even if I do not open up Ryzen Master or use it, though it can make tinkering in the UEFI tricky (sometimes it will fail to post if I go back into the UEFI menu). From that point forward I set CPU clockspeed and voltage using the Ryzen Master application.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpecChum View Post

What happens if Windows doesn't boot or keeps shutting down with Ryzen master? How do you disable it?

You have to clear the CMOS using the jumper or button.
Quote:
Originally Posted by SpecChum View Post

No go, I pressed apply on Ryzen Master and just got the usual F9 reboots I always get when I set 3200

Might be a current board/UEFI limitation. Dunno.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scotty99 View Post

Well he did suggest to leave the ram at stock before attempting this, i am just curious what i would set all the vccioo and all that stuff too, all ive ever changed with memory is dram voltage lol.

See above.
Quote:
Originally Posted by IRobot23 View Post

Do you guys think that AMD will support 3600Mhz?

Hope so. It looks like the C6H already does, even without bclk OC? Hoping for a new X370 Taichi UEFI soon.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Decoman View Post


Btw, here is a test fit, of the CR-95C cooler on the Crosshair VI board. Notice how the top x16 PCI-E slot is covered entirely.
I expect some trouble with the brand new Flare X ram sticks, as I suspect they are still too tall.
Quote:

That cooler looks awesome, even if it is maybe not the best in the world. I got Vengeance LPX specifically to avoid the huge heatspreaders.
post #5935 of 11744
Quote:
Originally Posted by drmrlordx View Post

You should be able to leave your UEFI overclock of the CPU in place, but I just do both in Ryzen Master (since CPU OC in my UEFI leads to reboot loops, bleh).
All I do on my X370 Taichi UEFI is:

leave CPU, RAM speeds @ default

leave CPU voltage @ default, but set CPU LLC to Level 1 (used to use Level 3, now use 1 for AVX)

Set SoC voltage to 1.0v (or 1.1v-1.2v or whatever), set SoC LLC to Level 3

Set DRAM voltage (MEM VDDIO or whatever its called) to 1.4v

Set VTT_DDR to .7v

Set 2.50V_PROM to 2.6v

Set +1.8v to 1.9v

Set VDDP to 1.010v

Set 1.05V_PROM to 1.070v

Boot to Windows, open up Ryzen Master

Set VDDCR SoC to 1.0v (to match UEFI)

Leave MEM VDDIO and MEM VTT alone; both will read 0.00

Set CPU Voltage to 1.35v

Initially I leave CPU speed alone, which will default to 3.7 GHz

Then I set memclock to 1600, set timings to 14-14-32-14-14 (strange order, but that's how it's laid out in the program)

I hit apply, forcing a reboot. I do not enter the UEFI during the reboot

Viola, now it will boot @ DDR4-3200 14-14-14-32 even if I do not open up Ryzen Master or use it, though it can make tinkering in the UEFI tricky (sometimes it will fail to post if I go back into the UEFI menu). From that point forward I set CPU clockspeed and voltage using the Ryzen Master application.
You have to clear the CMOS using the jumper or button.
Might be a current board/UEFI limitation. Dunno.
See above.
Hope so. It looks like the C6H already does, even without bclk OC? Hoping for a new X370 Taichi UEFI soon.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Decoman View Post


Btw, here is a test fit, of the CR-95C cooler on the Crosshair VI board. Notice how the top x16 PCI-E slot is covered entirely.
I expect some trouble with the brand new Flare X ram sticks, as I suspect they are still too tall.
Quote:

That cooler looks awesome, even if it is maybe not the best in the world. I got Vengeance LPX specifically to avoid the huge heatspreaders.

Cheers for all that, +rep!

Either my CPU or RAM cannot do 3200 (G.Skill Trident Z RGB Samsung 3200 14-14-14-34).

I've got new RAM coming tomorrow to try out, same model.

EDIT: I've tried straight up 3200 on the RAM and the blck method; both give me F9 reboots.

Edited by SpecChum - 3/25/17 at 4:32am
post #5936 of 11744
Average FPS in a 64P map on BF1 is 115 fps.

Not impressed. My GPU is sitting at 70-80% most of the time it seems like. When I used my 980Ti in this system, the FPS was easily on 160. So I do not know what the issue is.

Even reviewers are getting much higher avg. FPS..
post #5937 of 11744
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreedyMuffin View Post

Average FPS in a 64P map on BF1 is 115 fps.

Not impressed. My GPU is sitting at 70-80% most of the time it seems like. When I used my 980Ti in this system, the FPS was easily on 160. So I do not know what the issue is.

Even reviewers are getting much higher avg. FPS..

Those reviewers use scripted benchmarks in which most cpu's are closer to eachother like that BF1 map with the tank in single player. But at least you can run Battlefield 1 and run Cinebench in the background thumb.gif
post #5938 of 11744
Quote:
Originally Posted by yetta View Post

Slower Cinebench results on OC from JayzTwoCents.

I have to go check his setup. My bog standard stock 1800X does 1655 in the MT CB15 test ,it runs it at 3.7GHz too. 1560 is way too low.
Edited by Kuivamaa - 3/25/17 at 5:23am
Mastodon Ryzen
(12 items)
 
HP Z220
(8 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
R7 1800X Asus Crosshair VI Hero Asus R9 Nano Gskill TridentZ 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Pny SSD 240GB Crucial MX100 CM Nepton 280L Win 10 
MonitorPowerCaseMouse
Acer Predator XG270HU Freesync XFX 750W Pro HAF XM Logitech G502 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsCooling
i7 3770 HP Quadro K2000 HP 
OSPowerCaseMouse
Win 7  HP 400W HP CMT RAT 7 
  hide details  
Reply
Mastodon Ryzen
(12 items)
 
HP Z220
(8 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
R7 1800X Asus Crosshair VI Hero Asus R9 Nano Gskill TridentZ 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Pny SSD 240GB Crucial MX100 CM Nepton 280L Win 10 
MonitorPowerCaseMouse
Acer Predator XG270HU Freesync XFX 750W Pro HAF XM Logitech G502 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsCooling
i7 3770 HP Quadro K2000 HP 
OSPowerCaseMouse
Win 7  HP 400W HP CMT RAT 7 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5939 of 11744
mad.gif
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kuivamaa View Post

I have to go check his setup. My bog standard stock 1800X does 1655 in the MT CB15 test ,it runs it at 3.7GHz too. 1550 is way too low.

honestly, this video has so many uncovered points like:
- what does he mean when he says "make sure you have the latest micro code installed"?
- what exact bios is he using?
- why is he only using ryzen master and not any good piece of monitoring software like hwinfo?
- why did he not push the ram furher, his kit is 3000 mhz after all?
- why did he not do any bclk oc?

general oc scores have not really improved since launch. granted, boards now tend to brick less, but nothing to do with scores.
we will have to wait for the new agesa bioses to actually improve performance.
post #5940 of 11744
Quote:
Originally Posted by skullbringer View Post

mad.gif
honestly, this video has so many uncovered points like:
- what does he mean when he says "make sure you have the latest micro code installed"?
- what exact bios is he using?
- why is he only using ryzen master and not any good piece of monitoring software like hwinfo?
- why did he not push the ram furher, his kit is 3000 mhz after all?
- why did he not do any bclk oc?

general oc scores have not really improved since launch. granted, boards now tend to brick less, but nothing to do with scores.
we will have to wait for the new agesa bioses to actually improve performance.

Well ryzen master is probably stealing CPU cycles affecting the score. That should explain at least some part of the difference between his rig and mine. Other than that , it's Jayztwocents, he rarely ever gets trully technical.
Mastodon Ryzen
(12 items)
 
HP Z220
(8 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
R7 1800X Asus Crosshair VI Hero Asus R9 Nano Gskill TridentZ 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Pny SSD 240GB Crucial MX100 CM Nepton 280L Win 10 
MonitorPowerCaseMouse
Acer Predator XG270HU Freesync XFX 750W Pro HAF XM Logitech G502 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsCooling
i7 3770 HP Quadro K2000 HP 
OSPowerCaseMouse
Win 7  HP 400W HP CMT RAT 7 
  hide details  
Reply
Mastodon Ryzen
(12 items)
 
HP Z220
(8 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
R7 1800X Asus Crosshair VI Hero Asus R9 Nano Gskill TridentZ 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Pny SSD 240GB Crucial MX100 CM Nepton 280L Win 10 
MonitorPowerCaseMouse
Acer Predator XG270HU Freesync XFX 750W Pro HAF XM Logitech G502 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsCooling
i7 3770 HP Quadro K2000 HP 
OSPowerCaseMouse
Win 7  HP 400W HP CMT RAT 7 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: AMD CPUs
Overclock.net › Forums › AMD › AMD CPUs › [Official] RYZEN 7 1800X | 1700X |1700 Owners Club & 4GHz+ Club