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Originally Posted by Jubijub View Post

I currently own a 4770K@4.0 that out performs a 1800x at stock on game / anything requiring high IPC.
I am also considering a 6900K that can also reach 4.0 with no problem
So 1800x stock perf is not sufficient in that context, and I want to know how much I can compensate that

It depends on the workload for which you need 64gb ram. Not going to see high speed out of a 4x16 kit.
post #6212 of 11741
@bluej511

Despite our prior conversations, you really do have an awesome chip. I would go for 3.9Ghz first and see how much you need for that. And then go for 4.0Ghz if its within your acceptable voltage threshold. There will be a point where you will need to dramatically increase volts to reach stability, but it appears you can reach 3.9Ghz before that, and possibly 4.0Ghz.
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So... just turned on my set-up, now with a C6H. WAY less hassle than the Prime was, I'm glad I swapped the board even though I had to pay 120$ more for it. Getting the rest of my WC gear tomorrow so then I can finally trt toying around with the clock speeds a bit (no major upgrades, just getting another 8 fans for a p/p set-up and prettying up some mods that I have done to my case).
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post #6214 of 11741
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Trying 4GHz, pretty stable so far in everything I throwed at it.



Everyone's interpretation of stable is different, depends on what you plan to do with your computer. I only run my 1700 at 3.8 but I can run IntelBurnTest at maximum at 1.274v. That's stable to me, mite not be to others.
Edited by Leadbelly - 3/26/17 at 3:29pm
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If your doing mostly professional at tasks then Ryzen is the best. It trades blows with the 6900K and TBH if your going to OC even the 325$ 1700 trades blows with the 6900k. The only argument to get anything else would be Kaby for gaming but with faster memory putting the Ryzen on par for the most part not even sure that's a great argument anymore. Here's the thing Ryzen is getting better w updates and optimization and Kaby is already optimized.
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Everyone's interpretation of stable is different, depends on what you plan to do with your computer. I only run my 1700 at 3.8 but I can run IntelBurnTest at maximum at 2.274v. That's stable to me, mite not be to others.

Of course, I said pretty stable so far in my tests, which are blender, intelburn test, gaming, encoding and other task I tried. I just raised the vddcr soc a bit as I readed in this thread, and it's working, at least for now.

Greetings.
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Also think their is some validity to a windows issue cause I took a windows update and it Improved my performance in ME Andromeda for sure. Playing ME on Ryzen 1700 3.7 (for now cooler coming) with a OCed gtx 970 1080p ultra preset. Used to hold 60fps 75-80% of the time. After Windows update it almost never drops below 60fps . I even went back and played the areas that I noticed it struggling before and it was much better.
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Also keep in mind that X399 16-core zen chips will probably be out within a year. And who knows? Maybe even 32-core chips not long after that. I remember reading articles maybe a year ago or so that AMD was working on making 32-core zen chips for servers and supercomputers. If you need multi-threaded performance, (Ry)zen is the way to go.

Ah forget 'thinking I read a year ago'. It is def a thing. And on dual socket boards for 64 cores.

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/08/the_italian_job_amd_goes_to_naples/

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/03/amd-naples-server-processor-more-cores-bandwidth-memory-than-intel/

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3177714/servers/amd-hopes-to-break-intel-server-dominance-with-new-32-core-naples-chip.html

Oh and also those Naples chips should be available within a few months.
Edited by bardacuda - 3/26/17 at 3:54pm
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@bluej511

Despite our prior conversations, you really do have an awesome chip. I would go for 3.9Ghz first and see how much you need for that. And then go for 4.0Ghz if its within your acceptable voltage threshold. There will be a point where you will need to dramatically increase volts to reach stability, but it appears you can reach 3.9Ghz before that, and possibly 4.0Ghz.

Oh yea no worries man, a little constructive criticism never hurt anyone haha.

Not sure which voltage to believe, i mean if it is indeed 1.200 measured at the vrm thru hwinfo64 that would be pretty ridiculous, but then again all my motherboard sensors are frozen including vcore on the motherboard section of hwinfo64.

Seems like i got lucky like i did my first 4690k which isn't bad. Temperatures are fine as well just not sure if there correct, then again it is soldered, has a thinner IHS then Intel does so not sure. 48°C would be 1°C less then my 4690k but at almost double the wattage.

Not sure what to believe.
    
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Also keep in mind that X399 16-core zen chips will probably be out within a year. And who knows? Maybe even 32-core chips not long after that. I remember reading articles maybe a year ago or so that AMD was working on making 32-core zen chips for servers and supercomputers. If you need multi-threaded performance, (Ry)zen is the way to go.

Ah forget 'thinking I read a year ago'. It is def a thing. And on dual socket boards for 64 cores.

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/08/the_italian_job_amd_goes_to_naples/

Considering they had 16 core Piledriver/Vishera/Abu Dhabi CPUs for the enterprise market back in 2012 I would really be surprised if we don't see at least 16 core CPUs based on Zen. And as you said 32 core designs doesn't seem that far off either.
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