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What about what Elmor said?

Oh thats fine if im measuring more then the CPU is actually getting, means its actually even better then i thought haha. As long as its stable voltage wont matter. I wonder if i can do 4.0ghz at 1.3v but i doubt it. Seems like after 3.8ghz its a hard wall and needs way more voltage.
    
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yo let's take this back to the orig context of the thread. how many owners of Ryzen are doing 24/7 4ghz or more? i've finished and settled on what i have in my signature. 4ghz 1.375v and i won't fuss with it until may when the microcode updates are set to come out AND i get higher speed ram AND i get a new motherboard. but again, all that in may.

I would, but as long as the X370 Taichi UEFI keeps acting stupid about reboot loops from UEFI OC, I have to leave Ryzen Master open to maintain my CPU OC. The RAM OC will stick, but if you close Ryzen Master, eventually CPU clockspeed and voltage will go back to the UEFI defaults.

Ryzen Master can take up 1-2% or more CPU cycles which is slightly annoying.

But if I really want it yeah I can run 4.0 GHz 24/7.
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wow that sucks
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Hello again ladies, doing some DMM testing with my GT7, on the back of the board, very tiny pins. So far, interesting I guess. Latest 314 BIOS. Took a bit of tracing, verifying voltages I set via software, then checking pins and double checking, looks like I got some solid numbers. These are the best I got since I don't got the balls to measure off the MLCC's.

For my 3.8Ghz which is stable but not stable for 99% of OCN community tongue.gif

LLC - AUTO
DMM - Extech EX330, Sorry I dont got a Fluke.

Software set - 1.226
CPU-z - 1.232 Idle
HWiNFO - 1.232 Idle
DMM - 1.257 Idle

Loaded with wPrime

Software - 1.226
CPU-z - 1.243
HWiNFO - 1.243
DMM - 1.340

~~~~~~~
3.9 Ghz
Software Set - 1.312
CPU-z - 1.320
HWiNFO - 1.320
DMM - 1.345

Loaded
CPU-z - 1.331
HWiNFO - 1.331
DMM - 1.424

Now for the following, I set it back to a 32x multi, then kept changing the voltage to kept feeding in data for my own self

Test 1
IDLE
Software Set - 1.220
CPU-z - 1.221
HWiNFO - 1.221
DMM - 1.251

LOAD
CPU-z - 1.232
HWiNFO - 1.232
DMM - 1.320
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Test 2
IDLE
Software set - 1.214
CPU-z - 1.221
HWiNFO - 1.221
DMM - 1.243

LOAD
CPU-z - 1.232
HWiNFO - 1.232
DMM - 1.314
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Test 3
IDLE
Software Set - 1.208
CPU-z - 1.210
HWiNFO - 1.210
DMM - 1.238

LOAD
CPU-z - 1.221
HWiNFO - 1.221
DMM - 1.307
post #6245 of 11536
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It could be easily offered as a 2+2+2+2 configuration o-o with just cores disabled, again steppings. I don't know they might do 1800's? I don't know AMD's intention with the 1800x to be honest, the high leakage does allow it to XFR to 4.1 safely. Boosting voltage to like 1.5-1.55 and hitting those 4.1 ghz's Thats only thing I can see as a advantage else, 1700 is basically better as a economy processor in every way specially when talking about jamming 2 in the same chip

Stacking 4 CCXs to produce an 8C/16T doesn't make sense IMO. It can be left as an option in the BIOS but for economy's sake, I doubt any chip maker will do that for the same price nor will a consumer pay for a premium when the same number of cores/threads can be had cheaper.
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It could be easily offered as a 2+2+2+2 configuration o-o with just cores disabled, again steppings. I don't know they might do 1800's? I don't know AMD's intention with the 1800x to be honest, the high leakage does allow it to XFR to 4.1 safely. Boosting voltage to like 1.5-1.55 and hitting those 4.1 ghz's Thats only thing I can see as a advantage else, 1700 is basically better as a economy processor in every way specially when talking about jamming 2 in the same chip

Stacking 4 CCXs to produce an 8C/16T doesn't make sense IMO. It can be left as an option in the BIOS but for economy's sake, I doubt any chip maker will do that for the same price nor will a consumer pay for a premium when the same number of cores/threads can be had cheaper.

Not nessicarily in a R5 Scenario, or in a scenario where people may want Quad channel memory, Anyway not saying its a ideal CPU for the platform of course its now. But theres alot of people who would be interested in that platform likely not going to be wanting much over 10 cores. Depends on the work flow of course.
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It could be easily offered as a 2+2+2+2 configuration o-o with just cores disabled, again steppings. I don't know they might do 1800's? I don't know AMD's intention with the 1800x to be honest, the high leakage does allow it to XFR to 4.1 safely. Boosting voltage to like 1.5-1.55 and hitting those 4.1 ghz's Thats only thing I can see as a advantage else, 1700 is basically better as a economy processor in every way specially when talking about jamming 2 in the same chip


Stacking 4 CCXs to produce an 8C/16T doesn't make sense IMO. It can be left as an option in the BIOS but for economy's sake, I doubt any chip maker will do that for the same price nor will a consumer pay for a premium when the same number of cores/threads can be had cheaper.


Not nessicarily in a R5 Scenario, or in a scenario where people may want Quad channel memory, Anyway not saying its a ideal CPU for the platform of course its now. But theres alot of people who would be interested in that platform likely not going to be wanting much over 10 cores. Depends on the work flow of course.

I get that thumb.gif

BTW, if you have tested core configurations on these chips, there's a very little difference (assuming there is) in Performance between a 2+2 and 4+0. So that might give you a clue.

These chips don't seem to UnderVolt! nor Underclock! biggrin.gif I know someone will be sad. biggrin.gif
post #6248 of 11536
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Imagine stacking 2 1800Xs into a single chip with TDP and Power Limitations. So don't expect them to hit 1800X clocks.

8C/16T will not be offered on that platform - hint, Quad-Channel memory.

Instead of power, the current clock limitation mostly comes from the voltage/clock ceiling of the LPP node, so I think hitting 1800x clocks is doable though, with binning of course.
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Originally Posted by blue1512 View Post

Instead of power, the current clock limitation mostly comes from the voltage/clock ceiling of the LPP node, so I think hitting 1800x clocks is doable though, with binning of course.

This. My `1700 only needs 1.075v for 3Ghz. For 4Ghz it needs 1.425v. Its the Node
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Instead of power, the current clock limitation mostly comes from the voltage/clock ceiling of the LPP node, so I think hitting 1800x clocks is doable though, with binning of course.

Clock ceiling is another thing.

They have to limit the TDP first (server scenario)
They have to limit Power Draw too.
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