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I am just planning to get a Ryzen system by mid April. I thought of getting Ryzen 7 1700 and Asus Vi Hero. My biggest issue is that I most of the time more than 16gb of ram for things that I work, and Ryzen ram issues are kind of bad. I just wanted to ask if anyone thought of getting G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4 3200 F4-3200C16Q-32GTZ. My goal is to have my ram clocked at 3200 at least and have 32gigs.

I don't think anyone has 32gb of 3200mhz ram yet, let alone non-B-dies.

I don't know how high people are getting with 32gb of the Samsung B-Die stuff? 3200 is easily achievable with it, i.e 3200 C14, or 3600 C16 stuff from Gskill Trident series.
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I don't think anyone has 32gb of 3200mhz ram yet, let alone non-B-dies.

I don't know how high people are getting with 32gb of the Samsung B-Die stuff? 3200 is easily achievable with it, i.e 3200 C14, or 3600 C16 stuff from Gskill Trident series.

There are 2*16GB B-dies around. However, they are double sided and should create complexities for this platform.

https://m.newegg.com/products/9SIA4YU59N1251
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I posted this days ago.


In that case Im slow sorry for that redface.gif

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Im all ears for suggestions on how to fix my WoW fps guys, but increasing my voltage core is not it lol. Sheesh.

i don't think that the CPU is necessarily the limiting factor in WoW, the biggest "issue" right now is view-distance at 10 with AA which drives most middle class GPUs to the limit (speaking of my RX 480).
while the CPU never touches 20% Load.
Do you have a CPU comparison with the same GPU? For me the difference after the change from FX-8320@4.2GHz to the Ryzen 1800X @3.9GHz was very marginal, hence the RX 480 was still very often at 100% Load.
I am still pretty sure that WoW (sadly like many games...) profits from the greens, since my previous GTX 780 dit a bit better i think (can't prove it though)
    
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i don't think that the CPU is necessarily the limiting factor in WoW, the biggest "issue" right now is view-distance at 10 with AA which drives most middle class GPUs to the limit (speaking of my RX 480).
while the CPU never touches 20% Load.
Do you have a CPU comparison with the same GPU? For me the difference after the change from FX-8320@4.2GHz to the Ryzen 1800X @3.9GHz was very marginal, hence the RX 480 was still very often at 100% Load.
I am still pretty sure that WoW (sadly like many games...) profits from the greens, since my previous GTX 780 dit a bit better i think (can't prove it though)

WoW can run on a potato GPU, it needs CPU CPU CPU.

I am 100% sure it is some sort of coding problem with WoW and ryzen chips, just gotta wait and hope enough people buy R5's and complain about low FPS compared to the intel system they upgraded from.

Again the scenarios i am talking about where FPS dips is completely CPU bound, out in the open world questing i get well over 100 FPS of course, that is where the GPU can stretch its legs a little bit. But get a bunch of people on screen in the same area, you need all cpu cycles you can get.
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The WoW engine has been uplifted so much over the years but at its core it's pretty old.

It has never seen Ryzen before, i wouldn't be surprised if that's why WoW runs like crap.

It doesn't run like crap,it actually runs the game better than both my old 3770 and my E5 2650v2. He complained about a brand new specific scenario which I am gonna check out tonight so I do not have an opinion there.
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WoW can run on a potato GPU, it needs CPU CPU CPU.

I am 100% sure it is some sort of coding problem with WoW and ryzen chips, just gotta wait and hope enough people buy R5's and complain about low FPS compared to the intel system they upgraded from.

Again the scenarios i am talking about where FPS dips is completely CPU bound, out in the open world questing i get well over 100 FPS of course, that is where the GPU can stretch its legs a little bit. But get a bunch of people on screen in the same area, you need all cpu cycles you can get.

it depends with all low and DX9 it can run on a potato, but when the gpu hits 100% Load the cpu cant do anything. And like you said in scenarios where the GPU load isn't at 100 you can get easily up to 250+ fps (classic dungeons for example)
    
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In the UEFI is a "Performance Bias" option or something like that, it wil have Cinebench there, should give ya +50pts in CB. Johan45 mentioned it, yet to try.

I get ~1640/50 without the "Performance Bias" @ 3.8GHz+2400MHz C14, aren't you at higher RAM than me?
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It doesn't run like crap,it actually runs the game better than both my old 3770 and my E5 2650v2. He complained about a brand new specific scenario which I am gonna check out tonight so I do not have an opinion there.

That simply isnt true. A 3770 unequivocally will run WoW better than ryzen, please do a test side by side before you make claims like this, like i did today.

If you have the opportunity to do this please go to a busy area of the game, a busy dalaran, the new quest hubs etc. There you will be able to see how poorly ryzen does in this game compared to intel. Testing out in the open world questing or in dungeons is not where ryzen is having problems.
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That simply isnt true. A 3770 unequivocally will run WoW better than ryzen, please do a test side by side before you make claims like this, like i did today.

If you have the opportunity to do this please go to a busy area of the game, a busy dalaran, the new quest hubs etc. There you will be able to see how poorly ryzen does in this game compared to intel. Testing out in the open world questing or in dungeons is not where ryzen is having problems.

this does not compute, Ryzen has better IPC than Ivy Bridge.

Something is borked within WoW on recognizing Ryzen to begin with.

Any way you can make a video with the two PCs running WoW at the same time in the same place in WoW? Then we can see evidence of so?
     
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