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this does not compute, Ryzen has better IPC than Ivy Bridge.

Something is borked within WoW on recognizing Ryzen to begin with.

Any way you can make a video with the two PCs running WoW at the same time in the same place in WoW? Then we can see evidence of so?

I understand this dude lol, it does not compute for me either but i have confirmed with other people ryzen is having some weird issues with wow right now.

On paper it should be doing better, but it isnt.

The people who say it runs better than anything sandy bridge and up probably do not play the parts of the game where CPU performance actually matters, 25 man raids and large scale pvp. But they can test this by going to busy areas of the game like i suggested.

I just ran a 25 man emerald nightmare to test, on cenarius boss i dipped down to 45 FPS, with my 2500k my minimums are well above that. (this is the one tier i raided seriously in legion, i recall quite well).
Edited by Scotty99 - 3/29/17 at 1:09am
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post #6822 of 11486
OK crosshair 6 measured with DMM. Same as my x370 pro I videod

Ch6 plus fury X not happy 102 bclk so far.

with the right card she is happy though up to about 145

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That wouldnt be a fix tho. I mean if i got a 4k monitor to work the GPU a little id still be bogged down by this chip in the areas that matter (densely packed areas or raids).

I just dont understand how this is possible, someone explain to me how a chip from 6 years ago can get higher framerates? IPC between my 2500k and 1700 is identical, in fact the 1700 is slightly ahead!

Could this be fixed in a WoW patch, or windows patch? Because the results i am getting simply do not jive with what should be occuring.

This may sound dumb But have you tried setting the affinity for WoW to one core on the Ryzen? Remember with Ryzen Windows wants to split the load amongst all possible threads, including virtual ones. The fact that half the load is spread on threads the run at ~25% of the actual physical cores could be the reason for your performance drop. Windows doesn't let Ryzen fully load a single core unless all 16 Threads are being loaded 100%
 
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OK crosshair 6 measured with DMM. Same as my x370 pro I videod

Ch6 plus fury X not happy 102 bclk so far.

with the right card she is happy though up to about 145

Same Controller, same amount over reported. Sounds like delilberate design. . They did the same thing with some of their Intel boards. Drove people nuts when asus ran cooler temps at supposedly the same voltage. Til they were measured at the socket and the shenanigans came out.

What's the graphics card at. pcie 2 x16 ?
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This may sound dumb But have you tried setting the affinity for WoW to one core on the Ryzen? Remember with Ryzen Windows wants to split the load amongst all possible threads, including virtual ones. The fact that half the load is spread on threads the run at ~25% of the actual physical cores could be the reason for your performance drop. Windows doesn't let Ryzen fully load a single core unless all 16 Threads are being loaded 100%

Yep forgot to mention i tried that earlier. With just core 0 active it was like 20 FPS, 2 and 3 a little better than 1, and with 4 cores active it played exact same as all 16.

So basically, no change at all. WoW thinks ryzen is a slower CPU than it actually is, only way i can explain this.
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Yep forgot to mention i tried that earlier. With just core 0 active it was like 20 FPS, 2 and 3 a little better than 1, and with 4 cores active it played exact same as all 16.

So basically, no change at all. WoW thinks ryzen is a slower CPU than it actually is, only way i can explain this.

This has me confused if the monitors for both systems are running at the same resolution and any V-sync/gsync is disabled the 1060 system should be pulling a far better FPS than the 760 no matter how good the CPU running it is.

Speaking of this, have you tried putting the 760 into your Ryzen rig or the 1060 into the 2500K and seeing if there's any difference. I'm not big on NVidia Cards and don't know if the 1060 even uses it anymore but the 760 had this little thing called PHYSX and which lets the GPU take a lot of the load intended for the CPU. could account for the performance difference.
 
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Vsync is on both, but again GPU does not come into play in the spots i am talking about. I could have a gt 720 in both systems the ryzen rig would still be getting lower FPS.
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TV and monitor have different refresh rates generally. vsync off, gsync OFF. retest....
confirm version of wow, 32 bit vs 64 bit. compare config files particle density, draw distance etc, should be nearly identical but will show differences in graphics settings you may not know were there.
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Vsync is on both, but again GPU does not come into play in the spots i am talking about. I could have a gt 720 in both systems the ryzen rig would still be getting lower FPS.

Disable v-sync and see what happens. I never understood why someone would want to artificially limit the framerate anyway.

Speaking of which, you mentioned that the ryzen system is 20 fps slower but I didn't see (I may have missed it) you mention what the relative frame rates are. Also which type of connector are you using for each monitor and what resolution are they running at. Here's a little fact at certain resolutions things like DVI can be limited to 30 hz and are locked into 30 fps max if you have v-sync enabled. Same with HDMI , one of the reasons I use Displayport for my 1440p monitor.

Edit: also are they both running on the same version of windows?
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