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Well, I started an attempt at overclocking this thing, not so succesful as of yet. I ran cinebench at 4GHz, but that was at 1.43v and not stable at all.
Is there any reason to touch vppm or vddp? Any stuff I need to look out for?
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Originally Posted by Scotty99 View Post

I understand this dude lol, it does not compute for me either but i have confirmed with other people ryzen is having some weird issues with wow right now.

On paper it should be doing better, but it isnt.

The people who say it runs better than anything sandy bridge and up probably do not play the parts of the game where CPU performance actually matters, 25 man raids and large scale pvp. But they can test this by going to busy areas of the game like i suggested.

I just ran a 25 man emerald nightmare to test, on cenarius boss i dipped down to 45 FPS, with my 2500k my minimums are well above that. (this is the one tier i raided seriously in legion, i recall quite well).

A game that uses single core is anything but a game where CPU matters... I wish "enthusiasts" would get it right
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Originally Posted by TomiKazi View Post

Well, I started an attempt at overclocking this thing, not so succesful as of yet. I ran cinebench at 4GHz, but that was at 1.43v and not stable at all.
Is there any reason to touch vppm or vddp? Any stuff I need to look out for?

don't take my word on it - but some boards you need to push the SOC volts to 1.x - 1.2;

I think 1.43 is quite high for any R7s right now,
I know @ 1.403 max in IBT (nothing else causes the spikes) I barely feel like it's a good good idea.

which board?
what is your 3.9 volts? LLC?

and of course, 1700/1700x/1800x?
post #6854 of 11744
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scotty99 View Post

I understand this dude lol, it does not compute for me either but i have confirmed with other people ryzen is having some weird issues with wow right now.

On paper it should be doing better, but it isnt.

The people who say it runs better than anything sandy bridge and up probably do not play the parts of the game where CPU performance actually matters, 25 man raids and large scale pvp. But they can test this by going to busy areas of the game like i suggested.

I just ran a 25 man emerald nightmare to test, on cenarius boss i dipped down to 45 FPS, with my 2500k my minimums are well above that. (this is the one tier i raided seriously in legion, i recall quite well).

A game that uses single core is anything but a game where CPU matters... I wish "enthusiasts" would get it right

and for a group of gamers who have been playing a game for that long - you'd think they'd know everything about it.
I don't dislike WOW personally,

I dislike that the game has never "Cut ties" with lowest machines. has never actually came to modern graphics, or supporting modern APIs.
it's a game that's 19 years old... and it runs like it.
post #6855 of 11744
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Model: R7 1700
Sku: YD1700BBM88AE
Batch: UA 1709PGT
Country: Malaysia

Is officially a DUD. Last night it passed 24 loops x264.

Voltages


VCORE: ~1.35V SOC: ~0.890V, DMM Pro Belt readings, rest voltages stock.

Settings


CPU: 3.7GHz DF: 1200MHz RAM: 2400MHz C14 1T LLC: [Auto] Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)



Today I had let it run f@h for 4hrs, showing ~68°C, where as my 1st for same OC with ~1.26V is 60°C. My 1st has had a lot of stability testing and I have used it for web browsing / office work whilst running the stability tests. 2nd today went blackscreen whilst browsing web and doing f@h, then C6H showed Q-Code 8. I had hoped I would be able to lower the VCORE on the 2nd for 3.7GHz ACB OC, from this crash it would mean no.

Pulling the CPU from rig and not wasting any more time on it .


Gups, things got weirder!



Either it's the BIOS or the OS. 1.15 is the lowest that can get me into Windows yesterday.
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So ram speed and AMP( AMD's XMP variant) still not fixed despite 2 bios revisions to improve memory compatibility and stability. Not
Didn't change a thing at all. Still crashes at 2933mhz, be it manually set or automatically. The highest i can go so far that is stable is 2667. Enabling AMP also crashes it despite flashing to the latest bios for my board(1.2) that apparently came with the AMP profile.

AMD mobos have been a trainwreck so far.





Edited by Nickyvida - 3/29/17 at 6:02am
post #6857 of 11744
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Originally Posted by drdrache View Post

don't take my word on it - but some boards you need to push the SOC volts to 1.x - 1.2;

I think 1.43 is quite high for any R7s right now,
I know @ 1.403 max in IBT (nothing else causes the spikes) I barely feel like it's a good good idea.

which board?
what is your 3.9 volts? LLC?

and of course, 1700/1700x/1800x?

It was just a test run, I'm not running that high 24/7. Not yet at least devil.gif

Well the problem is, I haven't really found a stable voltage for anything above auto stock yet. I'm still working on that. I think this is going to take a while. Not sure what to set for llc yet. I might be pushing it too much.

(1800x + taichi, sig rig)
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Originally Posted by drdrache View Post

don't take my word on it - but some boards you need to push the SOC volts to 1.x - 1.2;

I think 1.43 is quite high for any R7s right now,
I know @ 1.403 max in IBT (nothing else causes the spikes) I barely feel like it's a good good idea.

which board?
what is your 3.9 volts? LLC?

and of course, 1700/1700x/1800x?

It was just a test run, I'm not running that high 24/7. Not yet at least devil.gif

Well the problem is, I haven't really found a stable voltage for anything above auto stock yet. I'm still working on that. I think this is going to take a while. Not sure what to set for llc yet. I might be pushing it too much.

(1800x + taichi, sig rig)

yea, and the 1.403 - I didn't specify is my 1700 @ 3999.91 on a Killer SLI.
for the LLC - I've seen that at least 3 is a good idea, reduces some droop.

it's a process and I cheated - just asked another person with a killer/1700 ffor their settings, and started 1 tick below them, and went until stable (of course, I wasn't going to go over 1.40x)
if you don't have the newest bios, I heard some rumors that cleaned up some of the droops on the tiachi.
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Originally Posted by Nickyvida View Post

So ram speed and AMP( AMD's XMP variant) still not fixed despite 2 bios revisions to improve memory compatibility and stability. Not
Didn't change a thing at all. Still crashes at 2933mhz, be it manually set or automatically. The highest i can go so far that is stable is 2667. Enabling AMP also crashes it despite flashing to the latest bios for my board(1.2) that apparently came with the AMP profile.

AMD mobos have been a trainwreck so far.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)




What kit do you have? Is it on the qualified vendor list? Is it single or dual rank?

The ram complaints really need to stop, we're still barely a month out from release and some boards have seen a single bios revision in that time. If you're serious about getting higher DDR4 speeds, go buy a kit with B-Die...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nickyvida View Post

So ram speed and AMP( AMD's XMP variant) still not fixed despite 2 bios revisions to improve memory compatibility and stability. Not
Didn't change a thing at all. Still crashes at 2933mhz, be it manually set or automatically. The highest i can go so far that is stable is 2667. Enabling AMP also crashes it despite flashing to the latest bios for my board(1.2) that apparently came with the AMP profile.

AMD mobos have been a trainwreck so far.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)




What kit do you have? Is it on the qualified vendor list? Is it single or dual rank?

The ram complaints really need to stop, we're still barely a month out from release and some boards have seen a single bios revision in that time. If you're serious about getting higher DDR4 speeds, go buy a kit with B-Die...

EDIT : my response was based on the idea my ram was SK... but it's a version thing; and I don't know now.
Edited by drdrache - 3/29/17 at 6:35am
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