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What kit do you have? Is it on the qualified vendor list? Is it single or dual rank?

The ram complaints really need to stop, we're still barely a month out from release and some boards have seen a single bios revision in that time. If you're serious about getting higher DDR4 speeds, go buy a kit with B-Die...

Trident Z RGB 8X2GB 3000mhz..

Yes, like i'm made of money.rolleyes.gif Why don't you sponsor everyone to a B die 3200 kit then since it would help to quit all the complaining?
Just fed up of getting bioses after bioses and finding out it fixes nothing.
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Trident Z RGB 8X2GB 3000mhz..

Yes, like i'm made of money.rolleyes.gif Why don't you sponsor everyone to a B die 3200 kit then since it would help to quit all the complaining?
Just fed up of getting bioses after bioses and finding out it fixes nothing.

You do realize that motherboard manufacturers have to validate every single kit if they really want to get AMP/XMP settings working? There are thousands of kits on the market, with thousands of configurations in secondary and tertiary timings. On top of Ryzen being an entirely new platform, this isn't going to take a week or two to fix, at the very least it's going to be several months.

Most motherboard vendors list support up to 2667, anything past that is noted that it's OC based and not guaranteed.

I have nothing against you personally, but after seeing another user flood this thread with the same question at least twenty times is incredibly frustrating, especially when several people have tried to explain things and help that user. Basically anything higher than standard DDR4 Speed (2133) requires specific kits, a bclk oc, b-dies, or motherboards with newer microcode/more tested memory kits.
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Gups, things got weirder!
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Either it's the BIOS or the OS. 1.15 is the lowest that can get me into Windows yesterday.

So same CPU clocks you could use lower voltage before?

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Gups, things got weirder!
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Either it's the BIOS or the OS. 1.15 is the lowest that can get me into Windows yesterday.

Did you change HWinfo versions over the course of those two sessions?

I personally noticed there are now two vcore readouts for my cpu on the latest version; a cpu based readout and a motherboard based readout. The CPU based one was reading about 20-40mv less. It made me think I was crazy because 40 minutes before I couldn't get 3.8 with ram @ 3200 to pass x264 without adding some more vcore, yet the readout was 40mv less than when I passed @ 3.8ghz with 2133. Then I remembered I updated HWinfo in between those two tests redface.gif


Edited by rv8000 - 3/29/17 at 6:56am
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You do realize that motherboard manufacturers have to validate every single kit if they really want to get AMP/XMP settings working? There are thousands of kits on the market, with thousands of configurations in secondary and tertiary timings. On top of Ryzen being an entirely new platform, this isn't going to take a week or two to fix, at the very least it's going to be several months.

Most motherboard vendors list support up to 2667, anything past that is noted that it's OC based and not guaranteed.

I have nothing against you personally, but after seeing another user flood this thread with the same question at least twenty times is incredibly frustrating, especially when several people have tried to explain things and help that user. Basically anything higher than standard DDR4 Speed (2133) requires specific kits, a bclk oc, b-dies, or motherboards with newer microcode/more tested memory kits.

TOTALLY agreed, its unbelievably frustrating. A little bit of reading goes a long way, some people tend to lack common sense though.

GUYS, THIS IS A TOTALLY BRAND NEW ARCHITECTURE AND PLATFORM THAT IN EVERY SINGLE WAY WORKS COMPLETELY DIFFERENTLY THEN INTEL. THE RAM XMP ON MOST RAMS IS XMP WHICH IS INTEL BASED OVERCLOCKED RAM SPEEDS. For the past decade Intel has pretty much owned the market. Most BIOS developers just refurbish the bios to work on newer chips, not much has changed between z87 to z270.

People need to understand that as early adopters were also pretty much beta testers. I knew that going on and have ZERO problems doing so, i in fact LOVE trying out new software/hardware/games. Hell i even write game reviews on game-debate.com for a reason haha.

If you want something stable thats going to work 100% of the time guaranteed buy a 7700k. I am perfectly fine running at 2933mhz ram with a cpu that DESTROYS my 4690k by almost 3 fold in cinebench and cpuz and whatever else i throw at it. Gaming is a different story but i knew that going in.
    
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Did you change HWinfo versions over the course of those two sessions?

I personally noticed there are now two vcore readouts for my cpu on the latest version; a cpu based readout and a motherboard based readout. The CPU based one was reading about 20-40mv less. It made me think I was crazy because 40 minutes before I couldn't get 3.8 with ram @ 3200 to pass x264 without adding some more vcore, yet the readout was was 30mv less than when I passed @ 3.8ghz with 2133. Then I remembered I updated HWinfo in between those two tests redface.gif


Based on the BIOS.

1.1VCore.

There are 3 VCore values on my Board.
CPU
ITE VCore
VRM Out

CPU and VRM are 0.002V apart and are working similarly when graphed. Need a DMM to test which is the right one.
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So same CPU clocks you could use lower voltage before?

Update on my 2nd CPU situation here.

Yep. Was at 1.15 yesterday.
Probably was Win7 that's preventing it to boot.
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Based on the BIOS.

1.1VCore.

There are 3 VCore values on my Board.
CPU
ITE VCore
VRM Out

CPU and VRM are 0.002V apart and are working similarly when graphed. Need a DMM to test which is the right one.
Yep. Was at 1.15 yesterday.
Probably was Win7 that's preventing it to boot.

Please let us all know what the DMM reads if you get the chance. I'm very curious to know what the droop is like on the Gaming 5/K7. I tricked myself into think there were readout points for the basic voltages above the dimm slots. I had both my DMM out, was all prepared, only to facedesk when I read the notation on the pcb for those points mad.gif
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How do you identify which RAM kits are B Die?
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Can anyone recommend me a fail safe board? I wont be overclocking.
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How do you identify which RAM kits are B Die?

Check the QVL and remove the guess work.
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