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Why is everyone recommending 3000 or 3200cl14 when the GSKILL 3600cl16 (16-16-16-36 variant for sure. I have them) are also Samsung B-die and run great at 3200 c14 on Ryzen and are around the same price.
New Bios are coming and when support gets better I have a feeling you will wish you had gone for faster than 3200.
Edited by AcesAndDueces - 3/31/17 at 11:57am
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1.93a (same as 2.0)
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1.60
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Your latency went down tongue.gif

Would be interesting to see if the small latency gain outdid the small throughput loss.
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lol. Aren't they rare?

Also note, to recommend is different from buying one. Surely, some guys will question a 3600 or even 4000 B-Die recommendation when they know for a fact that they can't run them at that speed. wink.gif

Don't worry, once the dust settles in, even the 3200 kits will run at 3600 or 3733 when supported. B-Dies are overclockers. Pretty good for that matter. See my sig. if they can run at that speed on X99, they will surely run the same on dual. wink.gif

FWIW, I have reached 3666 on X99 but that was more of a platform limit than the RAM.
Edited by mus1mus - 3/31/17 at 12:02pm
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Originally Posted by lightofhonor View Post

Your latency went down tongue.gif

Would be interesting to see if the small latency gain outdid the small throughput loss.

Yes memory latency was better, but as I said overclocking is much more unstable on 1.93a/2.0, chipset voltage has raised to 1.1V on default 2.0 bios vs 1.072V on default 1.60 bios, don't know why they raised the chipset voltage.
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Why is everyone recommending 3000 or 3200cl14 when the GSKILL 3600cl16 (16-16-16-36 variant for sure. I have them) are also Samsung B-die and run great at 3200 c14 on Ryzen and are around the same price.
New Bios are coming and when support gets better I have a feeling you will wish you had gone for faster than 3200.

3600CL16 least in Canada is another 20$ more, its what I bought. And yes it works the exact same.

Everything after 3200CL14 is small price increments, and theres a point where you just have to stop and go xD... no more 300$'s after taxes for 16gb of ram is already too much
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Why is everyone recommending 3000 or 3200cl14 when the GSKILL 3600cl16 (16-16-16-36 variant for sure. I have them) are also Samsung B-die and run great at 3200 c14 on Ryzen and are around the same price.
New Bios are coming and when support gets better I have a feeling you will wish you had gone for faster than 3200.

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lol. Aren't they rare?

Also note, to recommend is different from buying one. Surely, some guys will question a 3600 or even 4000 B-Die recommendation when they know for a fact that they can't run them at that speed. wink.gif

Don't worry, once the dust settles in, even the 3200 kits will run at 3600 or 3733 when supported. B-Dies are overclockers. Pretty good for that matter. See my sig. if they can run at that speed on X99, they will surely run the same on dual. wink.gif

And just because they are b-dies doesn't mean they work correctly now tongue.gif

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pretty much, pstates.

but it's super simple - set all cpu settings to default/auto (save/reboot here)

set offset voltage to the same if you were doing mutli overclocking.
go into pstate 0 - set custom
set FID to your overclock - don't touch anything else (vid should be near like 3a - 1187500) - save restart.

in windows, 2 options;
set balanced power settings, or edit high performance with a lower min.


there were 2-3 pages of me being dumb and not understanding this, but on a Killer SLI, or a Fatal1ty K4 - this works.

Wait what do you mean by set fid to your overclock? In that field is random numbers what would I enter for 3800?
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Originally Posted by AcesAndDueces View Post

Why is everyone recommending 3000 or 3200cl14 when the GSKILL 3600cl16 (16-16-16-36 variant for sure. I have them) are also Samsung B-die and run great at 3200 c14 on Ryzen and are around the same price.
New Bios are coming and when support gets better I have a feeling you will wish you had gone for faster than 3200.

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Originally Posted by mus1mus View Post

lol. Aren't they rare?

Also note, to recommend is different from buying one. Surely, some guys will question a 3600 or even 4000 B-Die recommendation when they know for a fact that they can't run them at that speed. wink.gif

Don't worry, once the dust settles in, even the 3200 kits will run at 3600 or 3733 when supported. B-Dies are overclockers. Pretty good for that matter. See my sig. if they can run at that speed on X99, they will surely run the same on dual. wink.gif

And just because they are b-dies doesn't mean they work correctly now tongue.gif


I set my 3600C16 to 14-14-14-34 3200mhz no problem. It wouldn't boot at 3600 of course. I hadn't tried tweaking it yet to see how high I could get it.
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Wait what do you mean by set fid to your overclock? In that field is random numbers what would I enter for 3800?

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I set my 3600C16 to 14-14-14-34 3200mhz no problem. It wouldn't boot at 3600 of course. I hadn't tried tweaking it yet to see how high I could get it.

Can't even get these to boot at CL16 2933.
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It's more board-specific at the moment. Just ask Gigabyte K7/G5 and MSI Titanium owners.

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