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Thanks for the info. So somewhere roughly between 4.15 and 4.2 should be the sweet spot? Above 4.5 there is no tangible performance increase?

Hopefully a dual H5 universal can cope with a Ryzen at 1.4v+ fine.

These are all theories and every chip may be different, but even 4.1ghz may yield little to no gain (maybe even a loss).

I remember (now several hundred pages back) that I was outscoring someone @ 4.15ghz when I was at 3.8-3.9 in Time Spy CPU score.


Even still, at some point something else becomes a bottleneck in the processor (ram, cache, latency).



I got a 2.06% increase in performance for a 2.5% overclock and 6% power increase.
Edited by lightofhonor - 4/1/17 at 1:33pm
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so question Guys,

I just got my Pstate0 Overclocking "working" - but with ASrocks new 2.0 Killer/K4 Bios - the voltages are more - precise? like the offset voltage mode takes more to get it to a certain level.

right now I'm trying to get back to my 4GHZ overclock fully stable and notice one thing; when stressing with real-bench (havn't tryed others, prime perhaps?) I get... Pauses in system usability.
as the system locks for a second, or a few; then resumes normally.

is that just Vcore issues? or do I need to look somewhere else, maybe ram?
post #7473 of 11538
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Originally Posted by Nickyvida View Post

Thanks for the info. So somewhere roughly between 4.15 and 4.2 should be the sweet spot? Above 4.5 there is no tangible performance increase?

Hopefully a dual H5 universal can cope with a Ryzen at 1.4v+ fine.

These are all theories and every chip may be different, but even 4.1ghz may yield little to no gain (maybe even a loss).

I remember (not several hundred pages back) that I was outscoring someone @ 4.15ghz when I was at 3.8-3.9 in Time Spy CPU score.


Even still, at some point something else becomes a bottleneck in the processor (ram, cache, latency).



I got a 2.06% increase in performance for a 2.5% overclock and 6% power increase.

What do you get for a timespy cpu score at those clocks?
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so question Guys,

I just got my Pstate0 Overclocking "working" - but with ASrocks new 2.0 Killer/K4 Bios - the voltages are more - precise? like the offset voltage mode takes more to get it to a certain level.

right now I'm trying to get back to my 4GHZ overclock fully stable and notice one thing; when stressing with real-bench (havn't tryed others, prime perhaps?) I get... Pauses in system usability.
as the system locks for a second, or a few; then resumes normally.

is that just Vcore issues? or do I need to look somewhere else, maybe ram?

I saw something like this happen when I was adjusting SOC voltage once. Take a look there as well.
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so question Guys,

I just got my Pstate0 Overclocking "working" - but with ASrocks new 2.0 Killer/K4 Bios - the voltages are more - precise? like the offset voltage mode takes more to get it to a certain level.

right now I'm trying to get back to my 4GHZ overclock fully stable and notice one thing; when stressing with real-bench (havn't tryed others, prime perhaps?) I get... Pauses in system usability.
as the system locks for a second, or a few; then resumes normally.

is that just Vcore issues? or do I need to look somewhere else, maybe ram?

My volts are the same from bios to bios, with 3800 multi the 3125 offset number loads to 1.248v. Not sure what to tell ya.
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so question Guys,

I just got my Pstate0 Overclocking "working" - but with ASrocks new 2.0 Killer/K4 Bios - the voltages are more - precise? like the offset voltage mode takes more to get it to a certain level.

right now I'm trying to get back to my 4GHZ overclock fully stable and notice one thing; when stressing with real-bench (havn't tryed others, prime perhaps?) I get... Pauses in system usability.
as the system locks for a second, or a few; then resumes normally.

is that just Vcore issues? or do I need to look somewhere else, maybe ram?

I saw something like this happen when I was adjusting SOC voltage once. Take a look there as well.

Do we have a good SOC voltage idea? I think mine is around .90x ... I heard hitting 1 helps?
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What do you get for a timespy cpu score at those clocks?

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/1485382/spy/1402320

http://valid.x86.fr/is58l1, http://valid.x86.fr/hp2ig8



1776/1740
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Do we have a good SOC voltage idea? I think mine is around .90x ... I heard hitting 1 helps?

I'm way up at 1.15V. This is the default for 3200MHz memory on C6H. Elmor's guide says up to 1.2 is safe.

I tried dropping it lower and that's when I ran into the temporary freeze scenario like you were describing. I also had some POST issues at lower volts.
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so question Guys,

I just got my Pstate0 Overclocking "working" - but with ASrocks new 2.0 Killer/K4 Bios - the voltages are more - precise? like the offset voltage mode takes more to get it to a certain level.

right now I'm trying to get back to my 4GHZ overclock fully stable and notice one thing; when stressing with real-bench (havn't tryed others, prime perhaps?) I get... Pauses in system usability.
as the system locks for a second, or a few; then resumes normally.

is that just Vcore issues? or do I need to look somewhere else, maybe ram?

My volts are the same from bios to bios, with 3800 multi the 3125 offset number loads to 1.248v. Not sure what to tell ya.

yea, it's weird, HWinfo, and HWmonitor now shows a doubling of voltages - cpu-z is now "right"

before on 1.63 beta - I used a +17500 offset to get to 1.402 for non pstate0 overclocking.
went to pstate0 (1.93a)- had to use about +18125 to get the same, now on 2.0, i'm at +21250 to get the same voltage reporting.

and i'm getting the "hitching" with realbench, so i'm not sure.
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yea, it's weird, HWinfo, and HWmonitor now shows a doubling of voltages - cpu-z is now "right"

before on 1.63 beta - I used a +17500 offset to get to 1.402 for non pstate0 overclocking.
went to pstate0 (1.93a)- had to use about +18125 to get the same, now on 2.0, i'm at +21250 to get the same voltage reporting.

and i'm getting the "hitching" with realbench, so i'm not sure.

Did you double the volts in HWinfo64 before to correct your voltages? It probably is still doing the same.
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I'm way up at 1.15V. This is the default for 3200MHz memory on C6H. Elmor's guide says up to 1.2 is safe.

I tried dropping it lower and that's when I ran into the temporary freeze scenario like you were describing. I also had some POST issues at lower volts.

For me, above 1.1 can stop booting. I just have an offset to help stability
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