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ya I agree I would like to 24/7 4.0 when I get my 1800x back but we'll see what kinda voltages I need to pump to make that happen.

My friend with their k7 was finding it needed alot more voltage to hit 4.0 then the Asus B350 before that. 1.428 vs 1.4

Meanwhile my 1800x wasn't stable at 3.9 @ 1.488v so.. ya I returned that non-sense.

what about the XFR? it should be 4.1 right out of the box, right?

Ya it would, which makes me feel inclined to believe that the first 2 cores are binned higher then other cores are. 1700x's are 1800x's that can't hit 4.1 probably.

But under any "real" load like.. ANY, XFR doesn't work, almost no loads use 2 cores. XFR is pretty useless imo.

Not saying its bad just.. its not good, at a Minimum if I'm overclocking a 1800x I want to feel like my chip is at least faster then a stock one using turbo/xfr mixed.

Mind you also that it pushes up to 1.55v onto 2 cores to get to 4.1 I believe?
Edited by Neokolzia - 4/3/17 at 10:04am
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If anyone in here is from France, on LDLC.com the 1700x is actually on sale with a daily coupon code for 390€ a good 60€ off. Not sure if they ship outside France but they have a Belgium/Switzerland/Luxembourg site as well. Hell of a deal.
    
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Ya it would, which makes me feel inclined to believe that the first 2 cores are binned higher then other cores are. 1700x's are 1800x's that can't hit 4.1 probably.

But under any "real" load like.. ANY, XFR doesn't work, almost no loads use 2 cores. XFR is pretty useless imo.

Not saying its bad just.. its not good, at a Minimum if I'm overclocking a 1800x I want to feel like my chip is at least faster then a stock one using turbo/xfr mixed.

XFR will gave you 120fps on power point slide biggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gif
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ya I agree I would like to 24/7 4.0 when I get my 1800x back but we'll see what kinda voltages I need to pump to make that happen.

My friend with their k7 was finding it needed alot more voltage to hit 4.0 then the Asus B350 before that. 1.428 vs 1.4

Meanwhile my 1800x wasn't stable at 3.9 @ 1.488v so.. ya I returned that non-sense.

I am yet to grab a DMM. But my instincts tell me VCore may be higher than what the chip is being subjected to. Time will tell if I can verify it. But Vcore - VRM 1 V = 0.040 at times.
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This is as far as she'll go.... on air, safetly wink.gif



Still a pretty bad bottleneck for the combined score, gpu usage fluctuating between 70-90%; pinned at 99% in FSE and FSU frown.gif

 

Try enabling Message Signaled Interrupts on your 1070 if you haven't done so already. That may get you up to about 8000 combined.

 

Also you should give afterburner a try. Use the same settings you have here to start out with the core set to +135 and then open the curve editor and increase the 0.950v point up an extra 25-50Mhz (as high as it will remain stable. I can run that point on My 1070 at 2037-2050Mhz). There is 21000 points available in the graphics score. I think doing both of those might get you a bit of a performance boost.

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No tweaks.
Just Win 7.
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12083908
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This is as far as she'll go.... on air, safetly wink.gif



Still a pretty bad bottleneck for the combined score, gpu usage fluctuating between 70-90%; pinned at 99% in FSE and FSU frown.gif
I believe the FS combined test is bugged for AMD. Could the explanation be something along the lines of this? http://www.overclock.net/t/1318995/official-fx-8320-fx-8350-vishera-owners-club/65360#post_25854277

Even if we compare 1080Ti / 1700 against my 980Ti / 6700k, the combined score for RyZen is lower than mine despite my graphics & physics scores being much much lower
http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/12044300/fs/12070288
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I believe the FS combined test is bugged for AMD. Could the explanation be something along the lines of this? http://www.overclock.net/t/1318995/official-fx-8320-fx-8350-vishera-owners-club/65360#post_25854277

Even if we compare 1080Ti / 1700 against my 980Ti / 6700k, the combined score for RyZen is lower than mine despite my graphics & physics scores being much much lower
http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/12044300/fs/12070288

Or people need to stop running background tasks, try it in balance and high performance mode and set priority to high. W10 is the buggy one with ryzen dont think its a ryzen issue.

I tried hp and balanced and in combined score got a huge boost just changing power options.
    
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Not likely as explined in that thread.

Anything not Intel will suffer huge performance cap in Combined. Only Thubans and other phenoms get the luxury of high CPU utilisation in Combined.
Edited by mus1mus - 4/3/17 at 10:55am
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Or people need to stop running background tasks, try it in balance and high performance mode and set priority to high. W10 is the buggy one with ryzen dont think its a ryzen issue.

I tried hp and balanced and in combined score got a huge boost just changing power options.
I don't know, I simply chose the top FS score for 1080Ti / 1700 in the 3dmark database for comparison
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