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To be clear, just because you pass 24 hours of prime 95 does not mean you are game stable. I have done this and got a crash in a game instantly.

Did you even read his review or actually look at any of the benchmarks? rolleyes.gif The reviewer gave AMD a 9.8 out of 10.
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I'm thinking of getting a Ryzen processor for my new build, still not sure on what model but the 1700 looks good. Maybe someone here can explain this to me but why does Ryzen performs better at 1440p versus 1080p in gaming? I have been seeing this in a lot of reviews lately and it seems that Ryzen performs better when there's less stress on the CPU.

http://www.relaxedtech.com/reviews/amd/ryzen-7-1700/7

I'm thinking 1700x's and 1800x's are binned higher, thus higher overclocks on lower volts, but that's just a theory. I would've gotten a 7 1700 because of the free cooler if i didn't find a 1700x cheaper than 1700, just got lucky. So i would recommend saving money and buying 1700, spending the saved money on better ram.
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I'm thinking of getting a Ryzen processor for my new build, still not sure on what model but the 1700 looks good. Maybe someone here can explain this to me but why does Ryzen performs better at 1440p versus 1080p in gaming? I have been seeing this in a lot of reviews lately and it seems that Ryzen performs better when there's less stress on the CPU.

http://www.relaxedtech.com/reviews/amd/ryzen-7-1700/7
1440p resolution is more GPU limited and so the relative weakness of Ryzen is masked.

I game at 1440p anyway so it doesn't matter to me.
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So guys i think ive solved my WoW performance issues.

There is a setting called view distance, which as expected dictates how far you can see into the distance. I have always known this is a CPU related setting, but never have i seen the performance difference i am seeing with ryzen.

Its on a scale of 1-10, with 10 i get 30-35 FPS in the area i am in, with it down to 3 or 4 i get 75-80 FPS, a ridiculous amount of FPS boost and i only lost the hazy outline of some of the bigger structures in the distance.

This is most definitely a bug, that one setting should not be affecting performance this much, gonna make a report on WoW forums too.

This is known for years,actually.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3jIKUEQ9-Q

Maxing view distance is creating a demand for an insane amount of objects to be drawn, which in return chokes the rendering thread that cannot produce enough triangles in time, killing the framerate. If only Blizz could transfer the game in a new engine...
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This is known for years,actually.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3jIKUEQ9-Q

Maxing view distance is creating a demand for an insane amount of objects to be drawn, which in return chokes the rendering thread that cannot produce enough triangles in time, killing the framerate. If only Blizz could transfer the game in a new engine...

Hmm maybe it has been like that, didnt realize how drastic it was.

And couldnt agree more with the new engine comment, i actually like the art style but a new rendering engine would be greatly appreciated especially for people with higher end hardware.
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@chew*

Any variance you noted between SKUs for RAM speed achieved? cheers smile.gif .

My 1700 seems a tad better...then again i have used it more so know it better.
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what about the XFR? it should be 4.1 right out of the box, right?
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Nice score & CPU clock.

Anyone mind posting their memory speed and timings with ASRock X370 Killer SLI (SLI/ac)?

I'm running 2400, 1.3V, 15-15-15-15-33, corsair hynix 3000mhz rated ram.

Thanks.

I'm not using the Killer but an Asus Prime X370 but I do have the same Corsair LPX 300Mhz Hynix Ram.. getting 2666 Mhz out of it with a 3.9 Ghz clock, Can't manage to get it to run @2933
 
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Is anyone able to run 4 sticks of ram at 3600mhz ?
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I think there may be something to that, though of course I think microcode is playing a role as well. I think come May we'll have a very good idea of where the weight of the limitation falls. That said, I'm not unhappy with performance at 2933 at the moment.

Dunno, suddenly where I thought the jury was out on that I think we're looking at the wrong end of the stick tongue.gif. At the moment the whole thing is "platform is immature", what if it isn't for RAM for upto 3200MHz?

I'm using what is supposed to be 3200MHz strap, now there was a post in The Stilt's thread.
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Personally I'm not willing to risk the stability and data integrity for slightly higher memory clock, which provides diminishing improvements over the highest frequency available at 100MHz BCLK (3200MHz).

Quote from. Then in an earlier post.
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In order to reach higher MEMCLKs it is currently better to use the lower memory ratios, which have been available since the beginning and therefore are fully functional and validated.

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Next on AMD community site.
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We intend to issue updates to motherboard partners in May that will enable them, on whatever products they choose, to support speeds higher than the current DDR4-3200 limit without refclk adjustments.

So from that 3200MHz is working as far as AMD concerned, your thoughts?

Then we see on that same page point 8 showing officially supported speeds. Even though 2993MHz / 3200MHz strap exists, is technically official as AMD provide that "stuff" to mobo makers, it is isn't the official line. Why? well my opinion is perhaps they have seen with their own internal testing only some chips hit 2666MHz+.

Then let's look at info under PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER , they have 1800X (what we would think is best bin), then they have C6H with 16GB G.Skill (2x8) DDR4-3200. And they test "Clocked to 2933MT/s: 14-14-14-30-1t" , seems strange that to me, why were they not at 3200MHz?

Any how maybe just my own conspiracy theory'ing. This whole wave of looking at this was inspired by @Scotty99 when we were discussing RAM speeds in another thread. He said he had example of his RAM / mobo combo reaching higher speed but his was limited to 2400MHz. Then I have seen at least 4x (inc 1 of my chips) which do not reach above 2993MHz on C6H, one of the guys has a 1800X IIRC, another 1700X, then lastly 1700 IIRC. Only the 1700X owner (bluej511) has Corsair RAM, all the other 3 examples are G.Skill aka Samsung B-Die.
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1744 is with a bios performance bias for CB15, 1696 is without and 1667 is without but 2400MHz C14 RAM.
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I am seeing more of a difference from board to board than anything...

Trace layout from dimm slots to cpu does matter
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