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If I was to consider an AIO cooler...
where should I look?
NZXT x62? Deepcool Captain? (I guess the 240 vs 280 debate)
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Guess you haven't been forced into a black screen yet.

Better. You know why? It took less than 5 minutes to test the minimum Voltage that allows my system to boot into Windows. And less than 2 hours jumping each 100MHz to come up with an overclock that proved stable for an overnight of encoding. Guess you don't have an idea which stress tests to do on this platform yet.

Look back at the explaination. 1.3 installed Windows no problem. Quick stress tests passed no issues.

Long term tests, black screen. Add Vcore you mean? How much from a quick test stable OC? I guess you think an additional 150mV is a small bump in VCore when talking about processors. doh.gif

What does installing Windows and running some benchmarks have to do with system stability? Most people use unstable settings to maximize benchmark results but we back down for daily use. Was this your previous measure of stability and now with the Ryzen you understand that wasnt a good method?

For a quick test, running two simultaneous instances of Handbrake will give you a good idea where you stand without running an overnight test. After you've run a few, you'll know where you are in terms of reliability and can fine tune voltages in preparation for a long term stability test without wasting 4-24 hours at a time with settings that you could have confirmed wouldnt work had your run the Handbrakes.

Edit: No, I dont mean add vcore. I mean start at the maximum (generally acceptable) safe voltage to begin with if you're going for a high overclock (which 4ghz is on the Ryzen). If it boots, run the above mentioned Handbrakes. If it passes without issue (i.e. errors or crashes), lower the vcore, and try again. Once you get to a point where you cant lower the vcore any further without the errors or crashes, run a longer stress test. If it fails that, you probably only need a very minor vcore adjustment (+) to gain stability.
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I would try again one stick at a time without the riser. I think that's your problem. You're using a riser that isn't really supported per se' and possibly have a bad stick at the same time. What board do you have again?

asus prime b350m-a/csm

Yea so i checked the backplate, completely took the cpu out and put back in, tried without the cooler even on the CPU... did all that with the GPU physically in the PCIE slot (ie not using the riser), as well as with it removed... Same behavior. I also tried removing the battery for over 24 hrs. I'm pretty sure my motherboard randomly bricked, or my ram suddenly just went poo-poo. I will be getting the motherboard speaker today, though; to see if it will give me any debug info.

I found that holding the jumper for the CLRTC for a long time (30+ seconds) will get a reboot loop thing similar to when a ram overclock is bad, but it never results in a post. One of the sticks of ram consistently gives me cooler light flashing, while the other will give me only 1 flash-- and that is only if I have just freshly pulled the battery or jumped the clrtc. I was thinking maybe i could try and put a usb stick in to try and see if the crash free bios feature is working, but i don't think there is even power getting to the usb.

Just makes me confused because I literally had not had any problems with ram clocks sticking through posts or anything. The case didn't get bumped or hit in the move, it was treated like royalty (i even buckled it in and snapped my buddies as a joke). The only few things that I guess could have had an impact was that A. I should have maybe reset my bios for the move (i left the OC intact), and B. earlier on in the day there was a power outage in my community, but my computer was shut down when it happened so I thought nothing of it.
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What does installing Windows and running some benchmarks have to do with system stability? Most people use unstable settings to maximize benchmark results but we back down for daily use. Was this your previous measure of stability and now with the Ryzen you understand that wasnt a good method?

For a quick test, running two simultaneous instances of Handbrake will give you a good idea where you stand without running an overnight test. After you've run a few, you'll know where you are in terms of reliability and can fine tune voltages in preparation for a long term stability test without wasting 4-24 hours at a time with settings that you could have confirmed wouldnt work had your run the Handbrakes.

Ohh now you wanna bring in Handbrake? I'm just on mobile so I can't pull in my Handbrake vs long term testing method where Handbrake did 2 hours of encoding with a +200MHz more OC from a barely stable OC in IBT AVX that can be run for 20 minutes.


Guess a quick test using X265 Benchmark at 4X Overkill is not a sufficient load is as alien of an idea to you. lachen.gif

2 simultaneous Handbrake tests. lol. As if you believe that 2 instances of similar job will put the CPU to 200% load.
post #7815 of 11725
Loving my 1800X system! So fast at anything I throw at it! I built it to edit 4K video as my last rig was a dog for 4K editing (very fast at 1080P editing which was what it started as).

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Haven't started any attempts at overclocking and haven't upgraded the BIOS yet (still on original firmware). Want to just enjoy the speed I have right now without worrying about instability. Will go crazy once the platform starts to settle down.
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Ohh now you wanna bring in Handbrake? I'm just on mobile so I can't pull in my Handbrake vs long term testing method where Handbrake did 2 hours of encoding with a +200MHz more OC from a barely stable OC in IBT AVX that can be run for 20 minutes.


Guess a quick test using X265 Benchmark at 4X Overkill is not a sufficient load is as alien of an idea to you. lachen.gif

2 simultaneous Handbrake tests. lol. As if you believe that 2 instances of similar job will put the CPU to 200% load.

Yea, that must be what I mean rolleyes.gif
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If I was to consider an AIO cooler...
where should I look?
NZXT x62? Deepcool Captain? (I guess the 240 vs 280 debate)

H100i has been more than enough for 4ghz and can be had for $100. H110i is also a good choice.

Just use the MB to control the fans to avoid their software wink.gif
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If I was to consider an AIO cooler...
where should I look?
NZXT x62? Deepcool Captain? (I guess the 240 vs 280 debate)

H100i has been more than enough for 4ghz and can be had for $100. H110i is also a good choice.

Just use the MB to control the fans to avoid their software wink.gif

I KNOW that my NH-D15s has enough cooling grunt - but I think my small case choice is what is hampering my system (airflow) - might force a push/pull on it for giggles.
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I KNOW that my NH-D15s has enough cooling grunt - but I think my small case choice is what is hampering my system (airflow) - might force a push/pull on it for giggles.

Yeah, I was having some higher temps on my VRMs since my case is small-ish. Updated my case fans to Jetflo 120 and dropped temps 10c+
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Anyone using a Noctua NH-D15 here? How long did it take to get the free bracket from Noctua? I'm thinking about going with a U14S just because I can find the bracket for sale at retailers with fast shipping.
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