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Hello,

i did some OC with my ryzen CPU. Normaly my ryzen CPU throttles at 95°C (75°C without Offset).

This time i used Ryzen Master Tool and the CPU didnt throttling at 95°C its was going up to 115°C until Windows crashed, because of a broken Fan Regulation.

Did i damaged my CPU?

If ryzen master says 115, your temps are 95c. So you are throttling at the right place, but it means you need more cooling.

What is your overclock and voltage? Cooler?
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as I understand it overclocking does not disable built in thermal protection. So if it shut down at 95 c it worked as intended. Boot to bios, reset to stock and compare previous stable clocks. Side note, which chip, what oc attempted, volts,
and what cooling?

It shouldn't have shut down at 95°, it should have throttled. This isn't to say that didn't happen and the CPU just crashed because of the OC and temperature.
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For anyone curious, new AIDA64 beta out

https://www.aida64.com/downloads/ODlhYmU3NWE=
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Trial version, portable ZIP package
Version: 5.90.4208 beta (Apr 04, 2017)
Release notes:
System Stability Test / new page for unified readings
System Stability Test / warning message when TdrDelay is too short
improved Windows product type detection
improved chipset information for Intel Skylake-E/EN/EP/EX
preliminary SPD SMBus support for Intel Skylake-E/EN/EP/EX
improved chipset information caching
CPU TDP limit detection for AMD Ryzen 5
CPU package temperature measurement for Intel Skylake-E/EN/EP/EX
CPU VDD and CPU VDDNB voltage, current and power measurement for AMD Ryzen
improved support for AMD Zen server CPUs
preliminary support for AMD Zen 12-core and 16-core HEDT CPUs
GPU information for AMD Radeon RX 570 (Polaris 10)
GPU information for AMD Radeon RX 580 (Polaris 10)
sensor support for Dell SMI of OptiPlex 5050
fixed: motherboard specific sensor info for EVGA E75x, E76x, E77x
fixed: CPU diode temperature measurement for AMD Ryzen (-20 Celsius offset on 1600X, 1700X, 1800X)

NAILED!
post #7995 of 11732
Ok i tested now shut down is at 93,5°C /113,5°C. Did this 10 times with voltage 1,45V hope i didnt damaged the cpu with this test.

My cooler is a H110i but the usb Driver is somtimes broken. So it stayed all the time in the quite mode
post #7996 of 11732
Memory G-Skill TridentZ F4-3200C16-8GTZB with Hynix M-die chip (I determined it by Thaiphoon Burner) has lower latency with AMD CPUs compared to TridentZ F4-3200C14-8GTZR with Samsung B-die chip. http://www.memorybenchmark.net/latency_ddr4_amd.html
However, with Intel CPUs this DRAM latency is 3 times lower (per the same site). I hope the May BIOS fixes that.

If you find your memory part number, and it happens to be hynix, you may read more about it at http://www.skhynix.com/products.do?lang=eng&ct1=36&ct2=37&ct3=&rk=&rc=com

The difficulty is that without buying DRAM and plugging it in to find the part number then look up the manufacturer rated speed you can't know what you are buying. For example, I found that my part number H5AN8G8NMFR-TFC is only rated to 2133 15-15-15. Getting it to 2933 is purely a coincidence. Another pair of the same memory manufactured in the end of 2016 only ran up to 2400.

Nonetheless, you can find which chip manufacturer you are buying at a retail store as you can see the barcodes on the box: In the numbers like 1701A400xxxxxxx the first four digits are year and week of manufacture. The sixth digit is the DRAM component maker. I believe 4 is Hynix and 5 is Samsung. However, even that does not help. A pair of DDR4 rated to 3400-16 with Samsung chips only ran as high as 2666. So you have to plug it in, hope that hardware tool recognizes the part number, and then look up the part's true rating on the component maker's site to determine your chances at overclocking memory.
Technically 2933-14 should have lower latency than 3200-16 because 14/2.933 < 16/3.2.

Yesterday I saw the ryzen for the first time as low as 39°C with H60 cooler taking air from outside, just turned on, then it climbed to ~43°C (on idle, in Texas).

Regarding the 1800 vs 1700 obsolescence discussion in #7993, in my setup the same hynix memory ran at 3200-16 very well when 1800X was in the AM4 socket. I just could not pass the deal of getting 1700X for $349. Even though 1700X can run quite fast ( http://valid.x86.fr/bench/x1yiiz/16 ) 1800X can run a bit faster and more stable which is important for those who use ryzen for work. And R5 with 6 cores can't touch that multithread score.

My setup: 1700X (at 4000@1.38V), Asus X370-Pro with 0515 BIOS, the above 1-rank DRAM at 2933-14 at 1.36V and 0.68V termination voltage
post #7997 of 11732
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Ok i tested now shut down is at 93,5°C /113,5°C. Did this 10 times with voltage 1,45V hope i didnt damaged the cpu with this test.

My cooler is a H110i but the usb Driver is somtimes broken. So it stayed all the time in the quite mode

Hmm, your actual temp must be the higher offset as I've had my actual to 105° without a shutdown when I was messing around with the stock 1700 cooler.

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Alrighty, so 1703 Creators update got pushed to my WSUS server (Which is on my LAN) Which is nice. What tests should I run before I install this patch and see if it makes any improvement on anything if anyone was curious.
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Ok i tested now shut down is at 93,5°C /113,5°C. Did this 10 times with voltage 1,45V hope i didnt damaged the cpu with this test.

My cooler is a H110i but the usb Driver is somtimes broken. So it stayed all the time in the quite mode

Check you VRM temps. If those hit 105c it can have a hard shut down.

Also, plug the H110i fans directly into the motherboard. That way you don't need to use their buggy software.
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105°C ? Realy intresting. My CPU ever stoped ad 93°C. And i mean realy stop. No blue Screen no black Screen, it realy shuts off the pc.

What you mean with VRM Temps? If you mean DDR4 i can not read the temps but ist only 2133MHz Memory and ist not overcklocked and have only 1.2V
Edited by Digidi - 4/5/17 at 7:53pm
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