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yeah there's some credibility to AMD's claims. possibly a bit like the Intel's Speedshift (not Speedstep) stuff, which also needed an OS update to be fully supported as it switched states faster than the existing solution.

it's just the OSD freak in me doesn't like it when the sensors show full clocks and volts in idle. Even if those sensors are wrong, according to AMD.
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AMD seems to be saying that it falls way below 90% though even if it's not being reported that way. If it only drops to 90%, it shouldn't even come close to the 5% default balanced in terms of watts but its extremely close.

I haven't thoroughly tested it, but it does seem to be dropping below 90%. The lowest my 1700 hit was 2.6ghz with ~1.1v, where as the default balance plan hit lows of 1.5ghz and ~0.4 to 0.8v. Currently testing other things, but I will check more later. I'm not quite sure what the point of putting the minimum processor state so high is, but I'm sure they have their reason. As far as I can tell all it did was increase my power usage, and did nothing for performance; with respect to the minimum processor state, as I've sinced reduced it to 5% and still get the same performance using the Ryzen plan.
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so, I just noticed my vcore not going below 1v in idle, and turns out if you change the P2 State to have lower idle clocks, the idle vcore isnt dropped as much. with default idle state, vcore jumps between 0.6v and 1.090v. and wattage is often just 10W.

now it gets interesting. with the AMD Plan and now default idle state, vcore does indeed drop (and then every odd update jump up to 1.4v P0 vcore), but also the power draw in idle is the same as with a custom P2 state, or sometimes even more. Meaning thats where I can see a definitive discrepancy. I mean, cpu package power is 14-16W in both power plans, but CPU+SOC is 20-30W with the AMD plan then and just 10-15W with the Windows Balanced plan.

I dont know what to think of the AMD plan. Someone with more time on their hands needs to check performance influence...
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All i know is some games i play show a testable/repetable increase from performance power plan, and you say in the next windows version there is no minimum processor state in that plan? Not sure i can deal with an overclock that stays at max clocks at all times tbh.
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All i know is some games i play show a testable/repetable increase from performance power plan, and you say in the next windows version there is no minimum processor state in that plan? Not sure i can deal with an overclock that stays at max clocks at all times tbh.

Minimum Processor state can be added to the High Performance plan, it would simply require a registry edit. I do not know the exact registry file/location so I cannot help you with this however.

*The AMD plan allows you to adjust the minimum processor state still
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Minimum Processor state can be added to the High Performance plan, it would simply require a registry edit. I do not know the exact registry file/location so I cannot help you with this however.

*The AMD plan allows you to adjust the minimum processor state still

What do you mean by amd plan?
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What do you mean by amd plan?

https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2017/04/06/amd-ryzen-community-update-3
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so, I just noticed my vcore not going below 1v in idle, and turns out if you change the P2 State to have lower idle clocks, the idle vcore isnt dropped as much. with default idle state, vcore jumps between 0.6v and 1.090v. and wattage is often just 10W.

now it gets interesting. with the AMD Plan and now default idle state, vcore does indeed drop (and then every odd update jump up to 1.4v P0 vcore), but also the power draw in idle is the same as with a custom P2 state, or sometimes even more. Meaning thats where I can see a definitive discrepancy. I mean, cpu package power is 14-16W in both power plans, but CPU+SOC is 20-30W with the AMD plan then and just 10-15W with the Windows Balanced plan.

I dont know what to think of the AMD plan. Someone with more time on their hands needs to check performance influence...

The problem is we are using software solutions to measure something that is really can't. HWinfo polls every 2 seconds at default. We need it to pull every 1/1000 of a second. 2000x faster.

I don't have a 1000hz monitor to even see the numbers changing...
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*** lol!

Gonna try this now.
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Nvm im a derp.
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