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Memory controller at end of the day is still part of the silicon & we know there are variance from chip to chip. As no 2 CPUs overclock the same, neither are 2 memory controller always the same. It just about how low the does the worse one swing. Intel is at a point with their Skl/Kbl architectures that even the worst of the worst IMC will still do 3733-3866. Good ones will do 4266+.

On AMD Ryzen, seems like the worse memory controllers are bad enough that they cannot even do 3200Mhz. CPU manufactures are smart & hence they don't specify memory speeds outside of safe zone, just as they don't specify overclocks that the user will be able to achieve. I haven't checked, but I think Intel specifies upto 2400Mhz on SKl/Kbl & so does AMD (Again these numbers can be off, but neither specify more than 2666 for sure). Anything above those speeds is considered "OC", aka there are no guarantees & they CAN, if they want to, deny you RMA on a chip that you consider has a bad IMC.

I think mobo makers can get off by saying that its the chips fault (weak IMC) unless you can prove that the same CPU does 3200mhz on other mobo. Again, these are how these things are setup legally (IANAL). But if you tried to RMA your CPU or Mobo due to not being able to hit a certain mem speed, they'd probably accept your RMA because they don't want an unhappy customer. But I think they can legally say no to you if they want to.

Nailed it. Though, I don't think the IMCs are that bad. There's a reason why 3200MHz is the max available option on everyone's BIOS.
post #8522 of 11752
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Hi have my mem kit working at 3200 (3600 originally) by XMP... No issues and rock stable... 16GB TridentZ...

As far as my connects go, the new BIOS is just around the corner from MSI!

Great you have your kit working, but let's not forget that others have issues too. I'm using the same RGB ram rated for 3000 and i have issues going past 2667 or enabling XMP.
post #8523 of 11752


FINALLY got my corsair bracket in. 4 ghz reporting in at 1.43 voltage LLC set to low biggrin.gif

Gaming stable. Running Mass Effect Andromeda tonight and will do a Heaven run. Voltage fluctuates from 1.39 to 1.45 thumb.gif
Edited by Alwrath - 4/10/17 at 9:15pm
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I think im getting higher FPS in Mass Effect Andromeda at 4K biggrin.gif

Max temp with corsair H100i V2 is 55C biggrin.gif
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The power of a 4 GHZ Ryzen and a stock voltage geforce 1080ti 1950 core.
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Do we have any numbers in yet, showing which boards are getting the highest overclocks on both ends?
IE. 1) CPU & 2) DDR4 ?

I.E. is there a "general consensus"?
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First page.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1624139/official-ryzen-7-1800x-1700x-1700-owners-club-4ghz-club/0_50

Memory OC > Pick Asus CH6 or Taichi for Benchmarking.
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OK i'm confused.

The exact settings i had tuned fine for F3 on Gigabyte Gaming 5, doesn't work in F5 at all.

Namely the vcore offset. I had -0.100000 on before, i expected 1.25v or so, all works in F3, but in F5, the same exact settings i had for a month doesn't do anything. the Vcore is stuck at 1.350v and goes between 1.35-1.36v.

Everything else works, but the vcore adjustment not sticking confuses me. It's a shame because the new AGESA did improve the Cinebench score by 50 CB points or so in multithreaded.
     
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Ya, There was a bit of play, but nothing crazy. Since the back plate has that insulation piece you'll be fine. Just gotta give the bracket some tough love, on 1 corner, just get the screw/knob on the threads barely so it stays on there, then do another corner the same way, and proceed around by tightening in a STAR pattern.

Thank you! Thank you!! Build is done and all good biggrin.gif

Equally surprising, I moved my boot SSD from old 2500k, R9 390 system to the new one (R7 1700x, 1080Ti), did not expect it to work at all, but Windows 10 did some magic, uninstalled all old drivers and booted me in plain no drivers mode!! (at this point I did my happy dance smile.gif) That was sooo smooth, good job W10! Also, on first post without any hard drives, was able to get my Corsair 3000 LPX on 2933, not bad.

Will try overclocking and all that jazz tomorrow. Need more case fans!
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OK i'm confused.

The exact settings i had tuned fine for F3 on Gigabyte Gaming 5, doesn't work in F5 at all.

Namely the vcore offset. I had -0.100000 on before, i expected 1.25v or so, all works in F3, but in F5, the same exact settings i had for a month doesn't do anything. the Vcore is stuck at 1.350v and goes between 1.35-1.36v.

Everything else works, but the vcore adjustment not sticking confuses me. It's a shame because the new AGESA did improve the Cinebench score by 50 CB points or so in multithreaded.

Did you clear cmos after the bios update? Mine stuck after updating the bios and not clearing cmos. Give it a shot a setting is probably stuck.
    
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