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Okay... Got my 3200MHz ram and it runs fine at 3200MHz CL14.
I am not getting any performance increase in TimeSpy. Results are exactly the same as with 2133 CL15.

At least it looks a lot better. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)




http://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/1543264/spy/1543174

I tested FireStrike physics and combined and got within margin of error of 2133MHz CL15 as well.


I saw an increase in both but could be due to it being OCed as well. In games there should be a difference depending on the game.
    
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Sooo close to finally grabbing my new Ryzen system.

Got all my ideal parts picked out. (finally).

I even begun to feel like a kid on Christmas morning.

I was 2 seconds away from hitting the 'confirmation button' on my basket.

Then I come across this:

The i5 3570k (a 5 year old 2012 intel CPU - also only mediocre in its day) still beats a brand new Ryzen 1700 at single and quad core performance by 4%.

I am really struggling again here. Someone help me out, please?

My current system is:
-AMD FX 8350 (running at FX 9590++ speeds)
-2133MHZ DDR3 (16GB)
-EVGA GTX 1080 Classified (soon to be GTX 1080 TI)

Main uses: gaming / browsing / extreme cooling / tinkering

Edited by nrpeyton - 4/11/17 at 3:52pm
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IIRC @bluej511 your compares were stock 1700X vs OC? not same CPU setup low RAM vs high RAM? last post I recall then there was another 2 or so before this one.
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IIRC @bluej511 your compares were stock 1700X vs OC? not same CPU setup low RAM vs high RAM? last post I recall then there was another 2 or so before this one.

This comparison (pretty much physics only so its not gpu bound) was stock 1700x with 2133 vs 1700x and 2933 i believe.

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/1313147/spy/1532784#

And firestrike, same setup on both sides stock/2133 vs 3.8/2933.

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/11885628/fs/12094988

And why not for s and giggles heres one with a 60/100mhz OC on my r9 390. This is with multiplier at 100 instead of 99.8 so gained very minimal haha.

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/12235762/fs/12094988
Edited by bluej511 - 4/11/17 at 4:14pm
    
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This comparison (pretty much physics only so its not gpu bound) was stock 1700x with 2133 vs 1700x and 2933 i believe.

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/1313147/spy/1532784#

And firestrike, same setup on both sides stock/2133 vs 3.8/2933.

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/11885628/fs/12094988

quick question, does there need to be different offset values for vCore to get the same voltage i had on F3 compared to F5?
     
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quick question, does there need to be different offset values for vCore to get the same voltage i had on F3 compared to F5?

Not sure, on my ch6 i havent tried new beta bioses but seems like some people are having to change the offset value, not sure if its reporting incorrectly or if hwinfo64 needs another update to match the BIOS not sure.

On my g5 though i left the same offsets from f3 to f5b and didn't have any issues, i didn't run it as hard as i have my ch6 though so not sure. Its a possibility though, maybe slightly more vcore to be even more stable or maybe to help with RAM i have no idea haha.

I'm as lost as we all are on the subject.
    
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The i5 3570k (a 5 year old 2012 intel CPU - also only mediocre in its day) still beats a brand new Ryzen 1700 at single and quad core performance by 4%.

What's the source for this? I'd like to see the specifics of the comparison. A significant amount of games can take advantage of more than 4 cores now.

If I was going to rebuild now, I wouldnt hesitate to get a 1700.

Honestly since you have an Nvidia GPU, the i5-3570k might perform better until Nvidia develops some AMD specific optimizations for their drivers.
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What's the source for this? I'd like to see the specifics of the comparison. A significant amount of games can take advantage of more than 4 cores now.

If I was going to rebuild now, I wouldnt hesitate to get a 1700.

Honestly since you have an Nvidia GPU, the i5-3570k might perform better until Nvidia develops some AMD specific optimizations for their drivers.

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-3570K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-1700/1316vs3917

I hear what you're saying; and I desperately do really want to grab a Ryzen.. all the hype is enough excitement alone to entice me.
(Even being part of the ongoing research we are all doing here) but actually being able to physically be part of that myself with a system.

But the investment is still a lot of money. One I desperately want; but also one I'm desperately trying to justify to myself.

Everytime I get sufficiently excited enough; I find something, like what I just described above; and its sufficiently disheartening enough to stop me taking that "final step".

I could grab an i7 7700k- but where's the fun in that? (To me, there isn't any)...

And right now, i'd rather stick to my current set up than buy an i7 7700k (which because to be honest my current system is still fulfilling my needs adequately.

But I can't help feeling I'm missing out; I just feel like I need more.. more good reasons to make that final decision for Ryzen and know I'll be happy with it :-(

/\ sorry for the edits
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hello's,
been playing with the overclock with this 1700, had to hit it with 1.39v to get 3800 stable with itb avx @ max. what a wait for it to finish, but 173 Gflops, my fx @ 4.6ghz got 96 Gflops. the no off set voltage is really stupid.stuck with 1.39v while using?
im also not sure if it failed any tests, i like the way that ryzen crashes, it just like my monitor switching off while i wait....

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